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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 10:50 pm
(November 5, 2014 at 3:43 pm)Cato Wrote: First of all, Senator Cruz cannot become Speaker of the House. Pretty sure DP originally meant Senate Majority Leader, which I think there isn't a chance in hell this will happen. The GOP was largely successful in preventing a vast majority of the teabagging lunatics form succeeding in primary races.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but I think there is a very easy path for the GOP to secure both houses and the presidency in '16:
- Leave the Affordable Health Care Act alone. Don't even discuss it.
- Shove dicks down the throats of anyone saying the word impeachment.
- Continue to keep 'family values' discussion to a low murmur: abortion, Jesus, marriage equality, etc.
- Reintroduce and pass proposed Fair Minimum Wage Act (2014) after removing provision to tie future rates to inflation (provides reasonable cover when Dems cry obstruction to original proposal). Democrat non-support or Veto would be political suicide.
- Work with blue dogs to put meaningful immigration reform on Obama's desk. This shouldn't be too hard and Obama wouldn't dare veto an immigration bill that had a modicum of Democrat support, not to mention something that satisfies the masses. Let Rubio sponsor.
- Do whatever it takes not to have another government shutdown. With control of the Senate, getting a budget out should not be a problem. If Obama wants to veto it, so be it.
- Initiate balanced budget and tax reform legislation in the Spring of 2016. It will languish of course, but it will be toxic for Democrats leading up to the election. By tax reform I mean simplifying the tax code, not corporate tax relief.
- Let Ted Cruz continue to marginalize himself. The Tea Party has been neutered by the electorate. He can only ever hope to attract the ignorant right wing lunatic fringe a la Sarah Palin unless he drastically changes his tune. The GOP leadership only has to keep calling him out for being a dumbfuck.
Now, I doubt much of the above happens, but I think it is a reasonably achievable path for the GOP to secure success in 2016 while avoiding the continued gridlock that everyone assumes is coming. If they can't, then it will be business as usual and they'll get what they deserve in 2016.
Astute advice. And of course they won't have anything like the restraint necessary to achieve it.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm
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(November 5, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Beccs Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I suspect your win will be every bit as practical as Obama's last election win. More gridlock ahead. Enjoy.
It's all the repubs seem to be able to do: interfere in peoples' lives and do whatever they can to stop Obama doing his job and repairing the economy.
Let's watch the economy go off the rails now.
You might see this as Yeller seems to be inclined to end qualitative easing now. We had our artificial high....now comes the inevitable hangover.
But then again...we may have gotten lucky that we have an energy boom in this country which will have a buffering effect.
Republican control or democratic control really has little difference in the economy. Some many other factors are at play that have more influence.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm
(November 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm)A Theist Wrote: It took six years of Barack and the demshits before the voters finally realized that there was no hope for change on the way.
Deja vu. Didn't you say the same thing after 2010?
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 10:55 pm
(November 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm)A Theist Wrote: It took six years of Barack and the demshits before the voters finally realized that there was no hope for change on the way.
Deja vu. Didn't you say the same thing after 2010?
Change continues to happen...first the house...and now the senate,
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 11:00 pm
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(November 5, 2014 at 3:42 pm)Heywood Wrote: You're a liar because you said it was the republican position that people should go hungry, not have access to health care, and get paid pennies an hour.
Actually, that's Ryantology you're quoting. But I do agree with him except the pennies an hour part, which I said was an exaggeration for rhetorical effect.
Quote:None of that is true.
Yes, it is.
Quote:...you lied about republican positions.
No, I didn't.
Quote:Not only are you are a liar but you are a hater
No, I'm not.
Quote:.....on a mission is to sell hate.
No, I'm not.
Quote:...you've been brainwashed to hate.
No, I haven't.
Hey, this is fun. You make shrill, emotional, unfounded accusations without any evidence and I simply dismiss them.
(November 5, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 11:28 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I gave up on politics after the country rejected a good man for an incompetent narcissist in 2012.
Maybe the America is starting to wake-up, but it doesn't matter to me anymore. I'm doing the whole Atlas Shrugged thing and focusing on the things that are closest to me.
What good man was that?
He's referring to this good man who's not an incompetent narcissist at all.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 5, 2014 at 11:36 pm
Quote:What I want to prevent is the government from controlling how people spend their technology/prosperity dividend.
What you want, you shitball, if to use the government to oppress the people you don't like.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 6, 2014 at 12:52 am
(November 5, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Heywood Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: The prejudice and ignorance in this post would be amazing, except for the fact that I've read this dipshit's posts before and have been inured to his ignorance.
When all you can do is lobb an insult....it shows that you are weak minded.
No; it might also show that I've learnt discussing matters with you is a waste of time, and that you're worth nothing more. You post before you think, you don't know what you're talking about, and you're so beholden to ideology that you're unable to see different points of view.
You're free to go with your own interpretation. I'm comfortable with my own analysis of your behavior ... though I'd welcome you proving me wrong.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 6, 2014 at 2:12 am
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Programs like welfare social security lowcost housing and especially foodstamps improve the economy this has been proven over and over again
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 6, 2014 at 2:14 am
(November 5, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Heywood Wrote: When all you can do is lobb an insult....it shows that you are weak minded.
I guess you're weak minded then.
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RE: Bad News with a silver lining
November 6, 2014 at 4:50 am
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(November 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm)A Theist Wrote: It took six years of Barack and the demshits before the voters finally realized that there was no hope for change on the way.
Deja vu. Didn't you say the same thing after 2010?
Ummmm, who has the majority in both Houses of Congress now? BHA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
(November 6, 2014 at 2:12 am)simplemoss Wrote: Programs like welfare social security lowcost housing and especially foodstamps improve the economy this has been proven over and over again
Excellent! Let's all quit our jobs and get on Welfare then! Gimme my food stamps, my low cost ghetto shack, and my free Obama cell phone! Livin' it large, now! Hey, since we all quit our jobs to get on welfare and improve the economy, who's gonna pay for all this shit?
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