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James Foley = $1m
#21
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 5:51 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why would the parents - even if they had the money - pay for the body's return? "Hi, please pay this astonishing amount of money so we can rape, torture, kill, behead, etc. others with it." It's both moronic and insulting.

Many points have been made, most in agreement with what you put, but some people might think "fuck it, we've got the money, I don't care about politics, and I want my son back"... you gotta respect those people too...

ISIS are the devils turds in any scenario though !
PS if you're about to post a reply and your response is going to be negative, improper, average, odd, obtuse, irrational, an argument, might change the focus, going off at a tangent or just mean ... go and find a maths forum to post on instead, they'll love you !!
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#22
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 6:05 pm)lifesagift Wrote:
(December 16, 2014 at 5:51 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why would the parents - even if they had the money - pay for the body's return? "Hi, please pay this astonishing amount of money so we can rape, torture, kill, behead, etc. others with it." It's both moronic and insulting.

Many points have been made, most in agreement with what you put, but some people might think "fuck it, we've got the money, I don't care about politics, and I want my son back"... you gotta respect those people too...

... I do?
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#23
RE: James Foley = $1m
Nah. Empathize, sure, respect is a stretch.
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#24
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 6:13 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(December 16, 2014 at 6:05 pm)lifesagift Wrote: Many points have been made, most in agreement with what you put, but some people might think "fuck it, we've got the money, I don't care about politics, and I want my son back"... you gotta respect those people too...

... I do?

So Kev, that's why they would
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#25
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm)simplemoss Wrote: So basically you're a white supremacist bigot who wants and advocates the genocide of everyone in the middle east and all 1.2 billion Muslims.

Oh no I'M SORRY I'm sure you just hate al queda, and Islamic state and the khorosan group and boko haram and al shabaab and the Taliban but you're not racist you're just a proud American and remember the 3000 that died on 9/11(13 years ago) and blindly just remember and think about 9/11 as we send 1/5th of worlds population into the gas chamber

While we call them barbarian.Smile

If you'd like some help getting that foot out of your mouth, I've a crowbar I'll rent you.

(December 16, 2014 at 5:51 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why would the parents - even if they had the money - pay for the body's return? "Hi, please pay this astonishing amount of money so we can rape, torture, kill, behead, etc. others with it." It's both moronic and insulting.

In WWII, a British noblewoman, Rachel, Lady MacRoberts, lost two sons in the space of a month in combat to the Luftwaffe. She gave the only admirable reply: she bought a Short Sterling heavy bomber for the RAF and had it christened MacRoberts' Reply.

If IS or any other terrorist organization wanted a ransom for my son's body, I'd donate that amount in his name to the US Air Force ... or perhaps the Mafia ... Hmm.

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#26
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 7:03 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(December 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm)simplemoss Wrote: So basically you're a white supremacist bigot who wants and advocates the genocide of everyone in the middle east and all 1.2 billion Muslims.

Oh no I'M SORRY I'm sure you just hate al queda, and Islamic state and the khorosan group and boko haram and al shabaab and the Taliban but you're not racist you're just a proud American and remember the 3000 that died on 9/11(13 years ago) and blindly just remember and think about 9/11 as we send 1/5th of worlds population into the gas chamber

While we call them barbarian.Smile

If you'd like some help getting that foot out of your mouth, I've a crowbar I'll rent you.

(December 16, 2014 at 5:51 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why would the parents - even if they had the money - pay for the body's return? "Hi, please pay this astonishing amount of money so we can rape, torture, kill, behead, etc. others with it." It's both moronic and insulting.

In WWII, a British noblewoman, Rachel, Lady MacRoberts, lost two sons in the space of a month in combat to the Luftwaffe. She gave the only admirable reply: she bought a Short Sterling heavy bomber for the RAF and had it christened MacRoberts' Reply.

If IS or any other terrorist organization wanted a ransom for my son's body, I'd donate that amount in his name to the US Air Force ... or perhaps the Mafia ... Hmm.

He should be more concerned about getting the foot out of his arse . . .

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#27
RE: James Foley = $1m
(June 14, 1970 at 1:01 am)lifesagift Wrote: I get what you're saying, you're just making the point really badly. Belligerence tramples over respect. And war is only about belligerence.

Asked the question, would I want my son's body back then yes I would. Were I a multi billionaire, a mill would be nothing, but to rest of us, it's pain and propaganda.

And the other thing is you miss the real focus and you don't criticise the murderous scumbags... disappointing line of argument my friend.
well first of all war is not all "belligerent" it's sometimes necessary. Second of all, the ransom would've been paid by the government. This isn't a kidnapping, James Foley was a prisoner of war, he could've easily been realeased in exchange for alqueda members currently in USA prisons which we've done and will continue too do.

Thridly, there's enough hatred towards Muslims in the west why portray myself as another white Christian bigot who actively calls for the genocide of all Muslims and publically banning them from simply practicing their religion. I defend the Jews too the same degree, there's enough neonazi assholes in America blaming them for everything and anything, calling for their genocide, why pile on??? Because I disagree with religion?

@ Becca and parkers i don't know what your obsession is with feet in peoples mouths and assholes but if wanna explain what u mean by that, i would just like u too know im here too help
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#28
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 8:20 pm)simplemoss Wrote: @ Becca and parkers i don't know what your obsession is with feet in peoples mouths and assholes but if wanna explain what u mean by that, i would just like u too know im here too help

The ability to admit error is the mark of the mature, and learning, mind. I'm not "obsessed" with you misspeaking, but just pointing out that you should perhaps think before you post, because even to this casual observer, you went off half-cocked.

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#29
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 8:20 pm)simplemoss Wrote:
(June 14, 1970 at 1:01 am)lifesagift Wrote: I get what you're saying, you're just making the point really badly. Belligerence tramples over respect. And war is only about belligerence.

Asked the question, would I want my son's body back then yes I would. Were I a multi billionaire, a mill would be nothing, but to rest of us, it's pain and propaganda.

And the other thing is you miss the real focus and you don't criticise the murderous scumbags... disappointing line of argument my friend.
well first of all war is not all "belligerent" it's sometimes necessary. Second of all, the ransom would've been paid by the government. This isn't a kidnapping, James Foley was a prisoner of war, he could've easily been realeased in exchange for alqueda members currently in USA prisons which we've done and will continue too do.

Thridly, there's enough hatred towards Muslims in the west why portray myself as another white Christian bigot who actively calls for the genocide of all Muslims and publically banning them from simply practicing their religion. I defend the Jews too the same degree, there's enough neonazi assholes in America blaming them for everything and anything, calling for their genocide, why pile on??? Because I disagree with religion?

@ Becca and parkers i don't know what your obsession is with feet in peoples mouths and assholes but if wanna explain what u mean by that, i would just like u too know im here too help

1. Don't call me Becca. My name is Beccs, which is quite clearly written here. But, if you insist on calling me something difeerent from the name I ask people to call me, you can address me as Dr. Anderson.

2. You make bullshit statements but don't bother answering what I've already stated.

3. You couldn't help us if you were somehow trained. Your lack of clear thought demonstrates that quite clearly.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#30
RE: James Foley = $1m
(December 16, 2014 at 8:20 pm)simplemoss Wrote:
(June 14, 1970 at 1:01 am)lifesagift Wrote: I get what you're saying, you're just making the point really badly. Belligerence tramples over respect. And war is only about belligerence.

Asked the question, would I want my son's body back then yes I would. Were I a multi billionaire, a mill would be nothing, but to rest of us, it's pain and propaganda.

And the other thing is you miss the real focus and you don't criticise the murderous scumbags... disappointing line of argument my friend.
well first of all war is not all "belligerent" it's sometimes necessary. Second of all, the ransom would've been paid by the government. This isn't a kidnapping, James Foley was a prisoner of war, he could've easily been realeased in exchange for alqueda members currently in USA prisons which we've done and will continue too do.

Thridly, there's enough hatred towards Muslims in the west why portray myself as another white Christian bigot who actively calls for the genocide of all Muslims and publically banning them from simply practicing their religion. I defend the Jews too the same degree, there's enough neonazi assholes in America blaming them for everything and anything, calling for their genocide, why pile on??? Because I disagree with religion?

@ Becca and parkers i don't know what your obsession is with feet in peoples mouths and assholes but if wanna explain what u mean by that, i would just like u too know im here too help

Prisoner of war? No, you fuckhead, he was a hostage. He was a non-combatant.
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