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The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 12:26 am
So I just talked to my long time ex-girlfriend, who I suspect ended things with me because I wasn't Christian enough; I was a pretty laidback Catholic when she was dating me, which should say something. Now she's employed with the Navigators, a campus evangelism ministry, so I feel pretty lucky I got out when. They sound a little...coockoo. Has anyone else encountered these guys, Cru, or other such ministries? Are they cultish in any way?
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Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 12:51 am
Evangelists in general are a pretty nutty bunch and, while I couldn't quickly glean much about The Navigators with a quick google search, I'm certain that they're at least as nutty as the rest.
One thing I found interesting is that two of the six links (probably not the correct term) at their web site had to do with asking for donations. Then, when I clicked on "About us" I got a "last opportunity to donate" message and nothing more. Speaks columns doesn't it?
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 12:56 am
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Yeah, it seems to be a mixed message from religon.
"God is all powerful, God loves you, God will provide."
"We need money or our religion will crumble."
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 1:11 am
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2014 at 1:11 am by StealthySkeptic.)
(December 16, 2014 at 12:51 am)Tombochan Wrote: Evangelists in general are a pretty nutty bunch and, while I couldn't quickly glean much about The Navigators with a quick google search, I'm certain that they're at least as nutty as the rest.
One thing I found interesting is that two of the six links (probably not the correct term) at their web site had to do with asking for donations. Then, when I clicked on "About us" I got a "last opportunity to donate" message and nothing more. Speaks columns doesn't it?
Yeah, she apparently is fully funded by donations, even though the Navigators also pay her. It's a little bit of a shady business model if you ask me.
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Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2014 at 9:32 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Skep...you get yourself into some strange beds man. High five!
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 11:23 am
(December 16, 2014 at 9:32 am)Rhythm Wrote: Skep...you get yourself into some strange beds man. High five!
Stealth pays dividends!
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RE: The Navigators
December 16, 2014 at 12:48 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 12:26 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: So I just talked to my long time ex-girlfriend, who I suspect ended things with me because I wasn't Christian enough; I was a pretty laidback Catholic when she was dating me, which should say something. Now she's employed with the Navigators, a campus evangelism ministry, so I feel pretty lucky I got out when. They sound a little...coockoo. Has anyone else encountered these guys, Cru, or other such ministries? Are they cultish in any way?
My brother-in-law brought in his Navigator neighbor to talk to me when he learned I was an agnostic. Talking to that guy was an important step on my road to being an atheist.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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