The Hobbit

[FatAndFaithless]

The..the "Ark"enstone? Does...does Ken Ham die in this movie?

That's it, I'm seeing it.

[thesummerqueen]

Yeah.

There's a ton of sadness in Tolkien's books. The difference is that the Hobbit has more humor and a more child-like tone.

[ManMachine]

It moved too quickly?

You shouldn't ask someone who listens to lectures on Tolkien, mythology, and faerie lore for fun about preferred pacing in a Jackson movie, probably.

I think they will split The Silmarillion, leave out the forming of Arda and make a 3 part series of the tale of the Silmarils, Beren and Lúthien being the third and final part.


MM

[thesummerqueen]

The Tolkien estate won't let them. They're not interested in making anymore movies, and Jackson et al are already in legal action with New Line over money.

[FatAndFaithless]

Was the Tolkien estate happy with the original movie trilogy, or were they reluctant even back then?

[Nope]

It moved too quickly? They had three movies extracted from a single book, did they just mess up the pacing? I found the first movie to be very, very slow at points, so maybe they had to cram all the action and resolution into the final installment.

Jackson left out some parts and added other parts. I think that he made it unnecessarily both too long and too hurried.

The Hobbit is a very male oriented book in that there are no female characters that play main parts. Jackson included the female elf. Galadriel(spelling) was not mentioned in The Hobbit. He also tried very hard to tie The Hobbit to the LOTR. This meant that he added or emphasized some parts that he could have left out altogether.

The Hobbit itself is a pretty straight forward book. Little guy who doesn't know he wants adventure goes on an adventure and discovers he is smart and capable but I think that it would be a difficult novel to make into a visual work.


Like I said, I liked the first movie and was meh with the second. I am looking forward to the third movie

[Dragonetti]

I wished I was home to see the movie, but I am deployed for my last 30 days.

[Nope]

It moved too quickly?

You shouldn't ask someone who listens to lectures on Tolkien, mythology, and faerie lore for fun about preferred pacing in a Jackson movie, probably.

Then your recommendation to watch the movie is doubly reliable. I have been a little reluctant to see it but probably will now.

Is the person who dies, the same one who dies in the book?

[Elskidor]

Skipped the thread to avoid spoilers. I'll be watching it tonight, and I'm hoping it is great.

[ManMachine]

The Tolkien estate won't let them. They're not interested in making anymore movies, and Jackson et al are already in legal action with New Line over money.

Given Christopher Tolkeins' emotional attachment to Silmarillion you could well be right but what do you think about the Unfinished tales, Númenor, the Lays of Beleriand? all of these stories have cinematic qualities.

MM