Why Thanking God is Hurtful

[Cyberman]

If I were a doctor and I were to, say, remove a ruptured appendix, and the patient thanked a god for it, I'd be tempted to put the organ back.

Maybe that's why I never became a doctor.

[dyresand]

If I were a doctor and I were to, say, remove a ruptured appendix, and the patient thanked a god for it, I'd be tempted to put the organ back.

Maybe that's why I never became a doctor.

Better yet put it pack and tell them god will fix you do you want to test that.

[abaris]

I should really consult a doctor about my mind. Just saw this thread and read "why wanking god is hurtful".

[dyresand]

I should really consult a doctor about my mind. Just saw this thread and read "why wanking god is hurtful".

because.....well if you give god a good wanking everyone is going to suffer jesus second coming.

[Cyberman]

I should really consult a doctor about my mind. Just saw this thread and read "why wanking god is hurtful".

I prescribe new batteries for your eyes.

Did I mention I'm not medically trained?

[Ravenshire]

There fixed that for you, all bold mine. You are seriously deluded by your own despite of Christianity.

GC

Well, I see g-c is here to explain away all legitimate criticisms with a thick layer of bullshit. Same shit, different day.

[dyresand]

There fixed that for you, all bold mine. You are seriously deluded by your own despite of Christianity.

GC

Well, I see g-c is here to explain away all legitimate criticisms with a thick layer of bullshit. Same shit, different day.

can't GC come up with something original for once.....
seriously he puts me to sleep when i read his posts..

[Ravenshire]

Wait... being thankful for doctors and teachers is a mark of delusion?

The reason I change the original quote was, to show that placing the doctor and teacher in for god would be just as damaging

Sorry g-c, but the argument isn't the same for people as it is for all powerful, perfect overlord gawds. People fuck up. They make mistakes. Your gawd (allegedly) doesn't. So, if someone gets sick/dies, the doctor can only be held accountable if malpractice can be proven. Your fairy tale gawd is supposed to be infallable so he either doesn't love the sick and dead as much, or it is a part of his divine plan, just like the author said.

[Mystic]

I wrote the following prayer:

O my Guardian, protector, and friend, whatever I say to you, you know the intention and yet what is more hidden.
I praise you as you are worthy of praise.
I ask you to make me thankful towards the good I've received as well as the good all the creation has received.
I ask you to make me praise you a praise that belongs exclusively to you and to make that praise a blessing within my soul.
O Lord, I ask you to forgive me for my shortcomings and my sins.
O Helper of the mystics, you have tried me by schizophrenia and you understand it better then anyone, and I hate it of most is the lack of will power and motivation it causes. I ask you to help me overcome these negative symptoms that medications only make worse.
Indeed my lack of will and laziness has engulfed my life, and without willpower to change and better my future, I feel I will have wasted my intelligence and capability.
O Source of all praise and goodness, I ask you to help me with a help that will make easy to run a regular schedule, exercise, and do well in school so that I finish my university degree and get a good job.
And I ask you by this, that my life is not wasted doing trivial useless things, and so that I become a productive member of society that is not a burden on society.
O Lord at times I get confused about my schizophrenia and what I experienced, I ask you to make me steadfast in being reasonable, taking my medications, and doing what is healthy for me.
Help me not deny the illness and inspire me to take the scientific understanding of it.
O Lord if I am bipolar as the doctors diagnosed me, then let me become sure of it and help me manage that as well.
O Lord I get lonely and isolated, and I ask you to make your remembrance alleviation of that, but to also inspire me to hang out with friends, and meet new people and make me a good friend.
I ask you inspiration to do what is healthy for me, to inspire me with willpower, and to help me overcome my lack of motivation and laziness.
And I ask you to help me overcome my suicidal thoughts whenever they come, at all times, make me love life more then I dislike it, make me appreciate life more then I'm afflicted by it, and inspire me to be grateful to you about life in all it's mysteries and wonders.
I ask you to always help me come over my negative thoughts, my thoughts of despair, and my thoughts of disappointment.
O Lord and I ask you to make me a success story of people who coped with schizophrenia and source of inspiration to those suffering from the illness.
O Lord I ask you to help me with hope over despair at all times, to never give up.
I ask you to give me a firm resolution.
And I ask you by that, to achieve honor and dignity that will make me grateful for my trials and will be a source of honor in the next world.
O Lord I ask you to help me with your holy sword, to inspire me by your greatness and majesty
O Great Friend and Master of humanity, I ask you to help me live a dignified life, hard working, loving, caring, satisfied and grateful.
O Lord and through out my life, grant me looking at you till I pierce through the veils of light and reach the source of greatness and my soul get's suspended by the honor of your sanctity.


If my life get's better and I feel I was assisted, why shouldn't I thank God?

We are all aware that bad things happen, but it doesn't mean we can't thank God for blessings.

And receiving blessings doesn't mean you are more worthy then those not receiving it. Neither does being hit by an affliction make you a worse person.

People who believe in God don't believe in that and this article is talking about a mindset in people that has no reality.

[Losty]

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There fixed that for you, all bold mine. You are seriously deluded by your own despite of Christianity.

GC

I'm limited on time today but, this is something I feel needs an answer, whether you accept it or not.

Seriously? People like doctors and teachers are only human. They can't save everyone. They're not all knowing nor are they all powerful. Your god is supposedly both.

I never said they were able to save everyone, my point in changing the "quote" was to show thanking doctors and teachers would result in the same feelings by others, if the writer of the "quote was correct, he wasn't. I know some may feel the way he described and I know that some have felt the same way he described when teachers and doctors were thanked. Now to we stop thanking everyone, of coarse not. We show our gratitude to God, doctors, teachers and all others who help.
Go back and read what I changed, you will see that I made mention of those who could and couldn't pay, how many people have been turned away from a doctors office because they couldn't afford to pay. The ones able to pay say thank you doctor for seeing me, what's those who were turned away to feel. Should the one who could afford to pay say, doctor I can't thank you because it will make those that were turned away feel bad. See what I was trying to say, we should be thankful and say so because it's the right thing to do, period. Life's not fair by any means, but it's what we have and when we have things to be grateful for we should thank those responsible, God, doctors or whoever.

I was at a Christmas party Saturday in the biggest house I've ever seen (and I've seen some pretty big houses), there were so many people and even more food. It was ridiculous.

I was in the heating and air business for years and have been in many multi-million dollar houses and I can understand the way you felt. But when a person is giving a feast for family and friends why is it ridiculous, as long as it was for the people and not to show off.

We stood in a circle while one man thanked god for blessing his family with so much food and so many nice things. Not because he was so glad to be blessed but because he was blessed with the ability to give so much to others. Well, it seemed really nice and that he helps people less fortunate than him is a nice gesture.

A gesture, are you saying he was trying to impress those there or that he could have done more?

I couldn't stop thinking that perhaps his god could have blessed him a little less and maybe blessed people whose children are slowly starving to death a little more.

Then you're saying God should not have worked through this man for others in need, do you realize we were created to help others, we are and it's up to use to answer the call of need.

If everyone has your god to thank for everything they have, then it's just that. Everyone has your god to thank for everything they have. Including children they cannot feed, cancer, aids, abusive spouses, nightmares from being a POW, a cheap tiny casket for their little one for every horrifying reason imaginable, etc. etc.

You're correct all should thank God for what they have, I do and many are way more blessed than I am from a material point. I do not see why I shouldn't thank God, do you think I shouldn't because others have more. Should I not thank God because I have more than others do, is gratitude an overrated thing for you, I don't believe so.
I've read about others who have thanked God for the illness a spouse had, why, because in the end it was going to make them both stronger, the man could see the results even before they were complete, that's having a relationship with God, was that part of your experience.
When dad was laying on his death bed I asked God to heal him if it was in His will and, in the same breath I asked if it wasn't that he would not let dad linger in suffering, God didn't heal him and He didn't let him suffer. I was thankful and told God so, do I wish I had him still, every day.
Thanking God for the toughest things in our lives is a thing for Christians, because we can understand why, it however doesn't mean we can't ask Him for help in our situations. Life's not fair and God is the first to tell us so, God doesn't bring all horrible things into our lives, most of those things are the result of the original sin, What most today say,"that's life." Many things we will never understand in this life, but maybe that could in itself be a blessing.

... when you say your Christmas prayers this year, be sure to throw in a thank you for the cancer that killed my friend Kelly at 25 years old this year

Your sarcasm is not appreciated. I'm sorry for your loss, I've lost a young life also and I know the pain, but I do not get mad at others because God guided me through a horrible time in my life. I'm thankful for His caring in my life and I miss my friend very much and I know God wasn't to blame for her death.

and the famine that starved so many children to death. Don't forget to thank him for fatal car accidents and for allowing so many people to lose their jobs. If you're going to give him thanks for all he has given then give him thanks for all of it not just the good stuff.

I pray for the people who get caught up in those terrible situations, I ask God to help them through and ease their pain and suffering, I do this almost daily, why, because God created me for this reason among other things. God did not cause these things to happen, it's life and we can hope that God will always help us through such things, but better yet we can pray for those who suffer these things, even if we are in one of those situations.

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The reason I change the original quote was, to show that placing the doctor and teacher in for god would be just as damaging as the if the writer was correct which he wasn't. The whole thing doesn't make sense, for example the writer assumes or at least wants the reader to assume that all people hear everyone praying for others and that's ridiculous. Christians understand that God's not going to heal everyone and unbelievers don't care about God, so as I see it the writers only feeling sorry for himself, he needs to get over it.

GC

Fixed the underlined.

GC....you do realize that good faithful Christians are victims to tragedies even while they pray and heathen atheists live happy comfortable lives all the time...right?

I think that was made quite clear in what I said in answering your above statements.

Prayer doesn't change your odds.

That I do not agree with, the only explanation you get is this, personal experience. If that's not good enough for you I'm sorry but it's all I'm saying.

You change your own odds, those who help you change your odds, those who don't help you change your odds, where you live...so many things are factors in what will happen and what won't.

This is true in many ways but, I call it life, things happen good or bad.

Prayer isn't one of them. I've never seen it make a difference. Ever.

That's a shame because I have seen prayer make a big difference, even when the answer is no. Could it be the reason you left the church was because you did not allow God to answer your prayers, just a thought, no more no less. Thanks for the questions, I hope my answers make some kind of sense for you, they do for me or I would not have shared them. I probably will be away from my computer for a couple of days, if you do reply and want me to reply remind me if I forget to check, a PM will work, again thank you.

GC

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I plan to respond. Probably Friday or Saturday.