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Why Thanking God is Hurtful
#31
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 2:07 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 12:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems you're judging all Christians by a few, most Christians call bad apples. They present a problem for Christians who try their best to live by God's will, what can we do about them, not much other than to continue to speak out against their false teachings.

GC

Funny how you focus on those Christians praising god for material possessions, but ignore those Christians who praise god for everything else.

Both are selfish. One's just more overt than the other.

Boy, there's something seriously wrong with you, I never mentioned material things in my statement.

GC

(December 24, 2014 at 2:12 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 2:07 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Funny how you focus on those Christians praising god for material possessions, but ignore those Christians who praise god for everything else.

Both are selfish. One's just more overt than the other.

i couldn't agree any better.

You would agree with a groundhog's fart.

GC

(December 24, 2014 at 1:33 pm)Sionnach Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: The prosecution has no evidence of it's statement, the statement will not be allowed until some real proof is presented.

GC

That is ironic, considering there is no evidence to support your god's existence. Would your god not first have to be proven to exist before it can be proven that he created cancer?

Besides that, however, is it not already apparent that your god would have had to create cancer, since according to your silly beliefs he is the creator of everything?

You are listing to those who would have you believe God created everything, He doesn't. I have a question for you and the answer is there in Genesis the first two chapters to help you out, how many times did God create when He created all that existed before the fall?

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#32
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 2:02 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: God invented cancer.

The prosecution rests.

The prosecution has no evidence of it's statement, the statement will not be allowed until some real proof is presented.

GC

Isaiah 45:7. Your god confesses to having created everything.

Everything necessarily includes cancer; even you can surely see that.

Now, apply this thirst for evidence to your own claims.

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#33
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='Parkers Tan' pid='827676' dateline='1419400925']
God invented cancer.

The prosecution rests.

Isaiah 45:7. Your god confesses to having created everything.

Everything necessarily includes cancer; even a dimbulb such as yourself can surely see that.

To many faithful, terrible things like cancer are created by god as tests to see how closely they adhere to the tenets of that faith. They get rewarded either way - if they die, they go to heaven. If they survived, then god has something else planned for them since they obviously passed the test.

It's a simpleminded way to explain both bad, nonsensical things and why some people live through them and others don't. The kind of reasoning a child would employ because it's simple and always yields a happy answer, even in the face of suffering.

Like a lot of things in religion, it's merely empty talk dressed as wisdom aimed to take the attention away from the here and now.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#34
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 3:39 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: .... I see GC is shitting up yet another thread with his lowbrow ramblings. I'm still waiting for the little pissant to explain why Hell is just, but he's unable to do so. What a blowhard.

I have several times, it's not my fault you missed or ignored them.

Your attempts, such as they are, are entirely insufficient to justify your claim that your god is perfectly just.

(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Quote:The only reason I don't put him on ignore is that I'd lose many opportunities to mock his earnest stupidity and dullard tendencies.

Please do both of us a favor and do so, I'm tired of your childish ramblings. You like Min bring nothing to an argument but hate and we all can do without that.

GC

Why don't you pray that this should happen, and let's see the results? Let's see your faith in action.

(December 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: To many faithful, terrible things like cancer are created by god as tests to see how closely they adhere to the tenets of that faith. They get rewarded either way - if they die, they go to heaven. If they survived, then god has something else planned for them since they obviously passed the test.

It's a simpleminded way to explain both bad, nonsensical things and why some people live through them and others don't. The kind of reasoning a child would employ because it's simple and always yields a happy answer, even in the face of suffering.

Like a lot of things in religion, it's merely empty talk dressed as wisdom aimed to take the attention away from the here and now.

Of course ... never mind the internal contradiction of an omniscient god testing his subjects.

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#35
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
When someone thanks god for getting better and a doctor helped them trained nurses and modern medicine.
its like saying fuck you to the actual people that helped you.
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#36
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: To many faithful, terrible things like cancer are created by god as tests to see how closely they adhere to the tenets of that faith. They get rewarded either way - if they die, they go to heaven. If they survived, then god has something else planned for them since they obviously passed the test.

It's a simpleminded way to explain both bad, nonsensical things and why some people live through them and others don't. The kind of reasoning a child would employ because it's simple and always yields a happy answer, even in the face of suffering.

Like a lot of things in religion, it's merely empty talk dressed as wisdom aimed to take the attention away from the here and now.

Of course ... never mind the internal contradiction of an omniscient god testing his subjects.

Or the permanent pit of torture and violation for those that don't pass the tests....

Whee!
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#37
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 2:45 am)robvalue Wrote: Free will huh.

I give you the free will to die from hideous diseases I invent and to get destroyed by "natural disasters" I send at you.

God can give free will without fucking us in the ass at the same time. I'm afraid it's not a good argument.

It's truth, therefore there is no argument.

GC

Earlier in the same post...

(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: The prosecution has no evidence of it's statement, the statement will not be allowed until some real proof is presented.

GC
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#38
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 3:00 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Of course ... never mind the internal contradiction of an omniscient god testing his subjects.

Or the permanent pit of torture and violation for those that don't pass the tests....

Whee!

But he loves you -- George Carlin.

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#39
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 24, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Free will, GC, free will.

Please explain.

Sure...

(December 24, 2014 at 12:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems you're judging all Christians by a few, most Christians call bad apples. They present a problem for Christians who try their best to live by God's will, what can we do about them, not much other than to continue to speak out against their false teachings.

These "bad apples" are exercising their free will to practise their religion the way they deem appropriate. Others such as Kevin to whom you were responding are exercising their free will to pass comment the way they deem appropriate.

Free will's a bitch when other people have it, isn't it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#40
RE: Why Thanking God is Hurtful
(December 24, 2014 at 2:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: When someone thanks god for getting better and a doctor helped them trained nurses and modern medicine.
its like saying fuck you to the actual people that helped you.

The refusal to rely solely upon prayer for treating their illnesses says a lot about believers.

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