A rant on gender stereotypes

[Chili]

I think the problem is that simply labelling these characteristics as "feminine" or "masculine" already creates some division and people start, logically associating the former with what a woman is supposed to be, and the later with what a man is supposed to be - For that matter, I think you can adopt any behaviour you want, but there's no need to associated with "traditional" gender roles because that propagates the subconscious idea that it's the way to go... If you want to be a housewife, fine, househusband, fine, you want to work and are a female? Fine. Are you a male? Fine - But don't attribute it to people's sex, rather personal choices, it's like chivalry, there's no point in giving special treatment to women under the thinking that we are fulfilling some traditional supported role, it's best to just treat everyone with politeness, I open the door to my girlfriend, she opens it for me, and so on....

I think the talk on biological differences is that no one really argues for complete equality - What people like me argue for, or better - Ask directly - Is if those supposed differences are sufficient, enough or justifiable to support gender discrimination, double standards, gender roles, and socially accepted prejudice? Which I don't agree with, not to mention these gender roles become complicated when applied to homosexual couples and other people who don't fit the norm.

Hey Daenerys, to support your view, I have a female friend who would kick my ass, and any other guy's, it's hard to think of her strength as being into the gender roles spectrum - Lol

And that is all true what you write, and should be accepted as normal in our gender equal society today. I have no problem with that and very much agree that females potentially are much greater than males. That is just the nature of who she is as the back-bone of males, and is the womb as wisdom retained for the next generation to bare, as I wrote before.

From here it is better to milk her breast and not her brain by making her more human like males, is what position is in the colloquial here.

That is where, how and why beauty is the vapor of truth and has its own right to be. So why bleed it and soon grow hair on their chest much like males in the extreme opposite here?

[Dystopia]

I think the problem is that simply labelling these characteristics as "feminine" or "masculine" already creates some division and people start, logically associating the former with what a woman is supposed to be, and the later with what a man is supposed to be - For that matter, I think you can adopt any behaviour you want, but there's no need to associated with "traditional" gender roles because that propagates the subconscious idea that it's the way to go... If you want to be a housewife, fine, househusband, fine, you want to work and are a female? Fine. Are you a male? Fine - But don't attribute it to people's sex, rather personal choices, it's like chivalry, there's no point in giving special treatment to women under the thinking that we are fulfilling some traditional supported role, it's best to just treat everyone with politeness, I open the door to my girlfriend, she opens it for me, and so on....

I think the talk on biological differences is that no one really argues for complete equality - What people like me argue for, or better - Ask directly - Is if those supposed differences are sufficient, enough or justifiable to support gender discrimination, double standards, gender roles, and socially accepted prejudice? Which I don't agree with, not to mention these gender roles become complicated when applied to homosexual couples and other people who don't fit the norm.

Hey Daenerys, to support your view, I have a female friend who would kick my ass, and any other guy's, it's hard to think of her strength as being into the gender roles spectrum - Lol

And that is all true what you write, and should be accepted as normal in our gender equal society today. I have no problem with that and very much agree that females potentially are much greater than males. That is just the nature of who she is as the back-bone of males, and is the womb as wisdom retained for the next generation to bare, as I wrote before.

From here it is better to milk her breast and not her brain by making her more human like males, is what position is in the colloquial here.

That is where, how and why beauty is the vapor of truth and has its own right to be. So why bleed it and soon grow hair on their much like males in the extreme opposite here?

I hate it when people twist my position to justify an argument I'd never support, or in this case, understand.......

[FatAndFaithless]

Ugh, can't wait till Chili passes from this forum like so many chili-shits.

[Chili]

And that is all true what you write, and should be accepted as normal in our gender equal society today. I have no problem with that and very much agree that females potentially are much greater than males. That is just the nature of who she is as the back-bone of males, and is the womb as wisdom retained for the next generation to bare, as I wrote before.

From here it is better to milk her breast and not her brain by making her more human like males, is what my position is in the colloquial here.

That is where, how and why beauty is the vapor of truth and has its own right to be. So why bleed it and soon grow hair on their much like males in the extreme opposite here?

I hate it when people twist my position to justify an argument I'd never support, or in this case, understand.......

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Ugh, can't wait till Chili passes from this forum like so many chili-shits.

I can give you three examples that the national mindset will destroy what they seek to find.

1. Only one generation ago 'free abortion for all' became entrenched as a social norm. Now, only 30 years later fertility clinics out-number abortion clinics by far.

2. Only one generation ago 'daylight saving' time became a social norm to place our free time ahead of our work. Now, only 30 years later we do not need it no more because we no longer can find a job that suits us, as if so important we are.

3. Only one generation ago, free, or subsidized education for all became the norm (at least here in Canada, I should add). Now, only 30 years later we have learned that this will reduce our intellect to mediocre at best, and we will [nearly] always graduate at the bottom half and strangers will get the good jobs and we just do the dirty work for them.

[Regina]

Hey Daenerys, to support your view, I have a female friend who would kick my ass, and any other guy's, it's hard to think of her strength as being into the gender roles spectrum - Lol

Lmao I can already see my avatar is confusing people, I'm actually a man Appropriate time to say since we're on gender roles.

I agree. I'm male and always lacked upper body strength. At the gym I struggle on weights most people would find easy, although I have been pushing myself to improvement. Probably still couldn't handle myself in a fight

I'm gay, and while I'm not immediately obvious, there are some feminine quirks to my personality, and I'm ok with that. I think if someone makes such a petty over-reaction to me straightening my hair, it says more about them than it does me.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I can give you three examples that the national mindset will destroy what they seek to find.

1. Only one generation ago 'free abortion for all' became entrenched as a social norm. Now, only 30 years later fertility clinics out-number abortion clinics by far.

Link, please.

2. Only one generation ago 'daylight saving' time became a social norm to place our free time ahead of our work. Now, only 30 years later we do not need it no more because we no longer can find a job that suits us, as if so important we are.

Wrong. DST is almost a century old.

3. Only one generation ago, free, or subsidized education for all became the norm (at least here in Canada, I should add). Now, only 30 years later we have learned that this will reduce our intellect to mediocre at best, and we will [nearly] always graduate at the bottom half and strangers will get the good jobs and we just do the dirty work for them.

Well, you're working with Canuckistanis there ... not really the cream of the crop, Chief.

[Chili]

I can give you three examples that the national mindset will destroy what they seek to find.

1. Only one generation ago 'free abortion for all' became entrenched as a social norm. Now, only 30 years later fertility clinics out-number abortion clinics by far.

Link, please.

2. Only one generation ago 'daylight saving' time became a social norm to place our free time ahead of our work. Now, only 30 years later we do not need it no more because we no longer can find a job that suits us, as if so important we are.

Wrong. DST is almost a century old.

3. Only one generation ago, free, or subsidized education for all became the norm (at least here in Canada, I should add). Now, only 30 years later we have learned that this will reduce our intellect to mediocre at best, and we will [nearly] always graduate at the bottom half and strangers will get the good jobs and we just do the dirty work for them.

Well, you're working with Canuckistanis there ... not really the cream of the crop, Chief.

True enough. It may not be exactly right what I just wrote, but the direction I am pointing at is there.

Let me add, when I was young girls used to get pregnant from sitting on toilet seats, so it was said, and do you thing that was not true?

[The Grand Nudger]

Depends on who else was in the bathroom with them at the time, one would imagine.

[Chili]

Depends on who else was in the bathroom with them at the time, one would imagine.

That may be true, but we have since learned that having sex does not make babies. I think the point is that fertility was not a problem and fertility clinics just did not exist. It is natural for people to be fertile and that was the purpose of the opposite sex society as designed by those in the know. Opposite sex male dominance seems to be the norm in every society, and I have seen arguments that female dominant societies do not exist, or at least have never existed for long.

But it is just fine with me. I write this only because we did some studies in this when the gender equal norm first was introduced. That's all.

[The Grand Nudger]

That may be true, but we have since learned that having sex does not make babies.

Hmn.....storks?

I really do wish we could decipher what it is you're saying, because you do seem to have alot to say.