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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:33 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 9:22 am)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:17 am)strawdawg Wrote: God is understood with the heart (spirit).
Your heart is a muscle which pumps blood, strawdawg.
You do not understand religious terminology which is taken out of the Bible.
I think a lot of people that are atheist if they were to honestly look into scripture and the things of God may take a different view.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:35 am
(January 13, 2015 at 9:33 am)strawdawg Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:22 am)Alex K Wrote: Your heart is a muscle which pumps blood, strawdawg.
You do not understand religious terminology with is taken out of the Bible.
I think a lot of people that are atheist if they were to honestly look into scripture and the things of God may take a different view.
You're aware the that a large majority of atheists used to be theists, right? Or are you going to pull a Drich and say that we weren't the right kind of Christian, or not Christian enough?
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:36 am
(January 13, 2015 at 9:33 am)strawdawg Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:22 am)Alex K Wrote: Your heart is a muscle which pumps blood, strawdawg.
You do not understand religious terminology which is taken out of the Bible.
I think a lot of people that are atheist if they were to honestly look into scripture and the things of God may take a different view. The heart is the very center of your being. Like the heart of a tree.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:38 am
You are speaking metaphorically. Your heart does nothing but pump blood, regardless of what the bible has to say about it.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:41 am
(January 13, 2015 at 9:35 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:33 am)strawdawg Wrote: You do not understand religious terminology with is taken out of the Bible.
I think a lot of people that are atheist if they were to honestly look into scripture and the things of God may take a different view.
You're aware the that a large majority of atheists used to be theists, right? Or are you going to pull a Drich and say that we weren't the right kind of Christian, or not Christian enough? Yes, people often give up on God. They pray for something and don't get it and it's over.
The secret of prayer is to pray for what one needs and never tell God how to do it. I've never prayed and got an answer exactly the way I would have done it, but an answer is a answer.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:43 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 9:33 am)strawdawg Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:22 am)Alex K Wrote: Your heart is a muscle which pumps blood, strawdawg.
You do not understand religious terminology which is taken out of the Bible. I was assuming that you mean it metaphorically. I was just being wilfully literal in order to make the point that it is not clear for what exactly the metaphor it is supposed to be. This vague sense of feeling which I suspect you call "heart" is not a reliable arbiter of what is real and what is not.
Quote:I think a lot of people that are atheist if they were to honestly look into scripture and the things of God may take a different view.
Yeah... you keep telling yourself that.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:43 am
(January 13, 2015 at 9:41 am)strawdawg Wrote: Yes, people often give up on God. They pray for something and don't get it and it's over. If that's why you think people go from being theist to atheist, you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.
Quote:The secret of prayer is to pray for what one needs and never tell God how to do it. I've never prayed and got an answer exactly the way I would have done it, but an answer is a answer.
What a crock of shit. We don't care about "the right way to pray".
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:45 am
(January 13, 2015 at 9:38 am)robvalue Wrote: You are speaking metaphorically. Your heart does nothing but pump blood, regardless of what the bible has to say about it.
Ya I think even in those ancient israelite times people knew what a heart's purpose was
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:46 am
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I'm afraid you are utterly wasting your time preaching to us, sorry. You obviously have incredibly low standards of evidence when it comes to these things, but we do not.
You need a logical argument, not emotional appeals.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 9:46 am
Hehe and what is pulling a Drich? 
This is something I'd REALLY like to read about
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