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"Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
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RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
(January 27, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I'd bet good money that Bryan Fischer dreams of dick.

All of the most raving homophobes do. No straight male would ever claim that being gay is a choice.
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#22
RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
Interesting development.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/28...tail=email

Quote:American Family Association fires Bryan Fischer


I wonder whose cock he got caught sucking?
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#23
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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#24
RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
(January 30, 2015 at 2:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: Interesting development.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/28...tail=email

Quote:American Family Association fires Bryan Fischer


I wonder whose cock he got caught sucking?
Ha! What a load of tripe. Those hypocrites still support every poisonous word that rolls from that reanimated corpse's tongue.

The organization is only distancing itself from Fischer's extremist rants so they can further buddy up to the RNC. Fischer's daily vitriol is too much for most of the RNC, as unbelievable as that seems, so they stripped him of any official representation of the group to appease them. The AFA wants nothing more than to become even more involved in politics so if cutting Fischer loose from his official post furthers that goal then Don Wildmon, president of that merry band of fucks, took up the scissors with a smile.
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RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
(January 27, 2015 at 6:09 pm)Sionnach Wrote: And this is the type of person revered by a great majority of religious people?
Strict literalist fundamentalists who see any compromise as a bad thing would hold him up as a paragon of sorts, yeah. They see him as a "tell it like it is" guy who doesn't try to sugarcoat his opinion. So in a way he's like a fundie Howard Stern.

(January 30, 2015 at 2:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: Interesting development.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/28...tail=email

Quote:American Family Association fires Bryan Fischer
Interesting tidbit from that link:
Quote:Fischer has for years promoted as sound truth the conspiracy theory that Hitler surrounded himself with homosexual "soldiers and thugs" due to their extreme brutality.
One of the notable things in Bill Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is that he constantly notes the rumors that at least some of Hitler's closest associates during his rise were homosexuals who were attracted to young boys. The implications are that (a)this behavior was typical of gays and (b)it shows just how despicable the Nazi party was, that it would consort with such men. Shirer is otherwise a pretty liberal guy, but he reflects the attitudes of the times in that time period.

I wonder if Fischer got his idea about Hitler 'surrounding himself with gays' from Shirer's book.
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RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
Quote:Fischer has for years promoted as sound truth the conspiracy theory that Hitler surrounded himself with homosexual "soldiers and thugs" due to their extreme brutality.

How did he manage to do that if he sent homosexuals off to concentration camps?
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RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
(January 30, 2015 at 11:04 am)Xeno Wrote:
Quote:Fischer has for years promoted as sound truth the conspiracy theory that Hitler surrounded himself with homosexual "soldiers and thugs" due to their extreme brutality.

How did he manage to do that if he sent homosexuals off to concentration camps?

Don't ask, don't tell?
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RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
Quote:So, I never really paid attention at family gatherings, which were mainly presents and food. For all long time, my Uncle Scott and 'Uncle Dino' (dee-no) would show up together. They were never romantic or anything, and as I grew up, I was told he was just a close friend or something. And, he was just kind of there. I never really thought much about it. And, then, he moved to Hawaii for a job; my Uncle Scott was upset, Dino - never mentioned again. Uncle Scott brought a new "buddy" to family gatherings. However, my mother used to keep track of anniversararies and such on an iPod, and she gave the iPod to me. One day, a reminder showed for "Scott and Dino anniversary" and that was when all the dots finally connected in my brain. Derp. I felt like an idiot, because all signs were there, in neon. No girlfriend or wife, guy "friends", likes musicals (not necessarily a 'gay thing' but still...) The point is, if I had given one thought to his relationship with other humans outside the family, I would've noticed.
Anyway, I decide to ask my mom, just in case I'm wrong. I go into her office, sit down, and say, "Ok, I'll just cut to the chase." She sighs and goes, "Did you get another detention?"
"No. Is Uncle Scott gay?"
She turns around and gives me this 'no shit, Sherlock' look, then keeps typing. "What do you think?"
We talked for a bit, and that was that. That was pretty much the highlight of my Thanksgiving break.
Ah, I'm sometimes amazed by my own blindness. Smile
Anyway, yeah, my uncle and his boyfriend are so demonic. Playing Wii with them at my grandma's house was super scary.

Quote:"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves."
Just thought I would point this out.
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#29
RE: "Fischer's" Homosexual Agenda
An article at towleroad.com reveals that the AFA sent a letter to the SPLC, distancing themselves from Fischer's bigoted rants and arguing that the AFA should no longer be viewed as a hate group. The responses from the SPLC and from Right Wing Watch are priceless:

SPLC President Richard Cohen sent a reply letter to AFA saying he wasn't buying any of it:

“Without ending Mr. Fischer’s talk show, without apologizing for the bigoted statements that he, Mr. Wildmon, and others associated with the AFA have made, and without making it crystal clear that the AFA will not tolerate any such statements in the future, the AFA’s 11th-hour disavowal of Mr. Fischer appears to serve only one purpose: to give the AFA a degree of plausible deniability while it continues to spew hateful rhetoric. It’s a shell game and a transparent one at that.”

Right Wing Watch has also called bullshit on AFA's distancing efforts:

...the AFA has literally accomplished nothing with this stunt and has completely failed to distance itself from Fischer's utterly despicable views. The primary venues though which Fischer has managed to spread his bigotry for the last six years have always been owned, operated, and funded by the American Family Association and that relationship appears to remain intact.

Stripping Fischer of his title as AFA spokesman in no way alleviates the AFA of its responsibility for Fischer's toxic views given that the only reason Fischer even has a platform from which to spread those views is because AFA is providing it to him and paying him to spread them!

From the very start of Fischer's time at AFA, the organization has pathetically attempted to have it both ways: providing the very microphone from which Fischer speaks while simultaneously claiming that it bears no responsibility for the message that he sends.

The AFA latest effort to rid itself of Fischer's rancid reputation is little more than a rhetorical accounting trick aimed at creating the false impression that the organization has wiped Fischer's bigotry off of its books.


So Fischer is no longer "Director of Issues Analysis" for AFA -- coveted position that! -- but he remains to spew his vile bullshit. The AFA is so pathetic. Strider nailed it. This is all about the AFA cozying up to the GOP. Fischer had to be symbolically driven into the wilderness, but the AFA can't get rid of him entirely. After all, as depressing as it is, Fischer does have his audience, and the far-right Christian knuckle-draggers who listen to him donate to the cause.

Yeah, the AFA is all about principle. Angel
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(January 30, 2015 at 10:40 am)Tonus Wrote: One of the notable things in Bill Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is that he constantly notes the rumors that at least some of Hitler's closest associates during his rise were homosexuals who were attracted to young boys. The implications are that (a)this behavior was typical of gays and (b)it shows just how despicable the Nazi party was, that it would consort with such men. Shirer is otherwise a pretty liberal guy, but he reflects the attitudes of the times in that time period.

I wonder if Fischer got his idea about Hitler 'surrounding himself with gays' from Shirer's book.

However, Shirer also points out that most of those so accused were done in with the 1934 purge, which works against the point Fischer was trying to make.

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