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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:29 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm)YGninja Wrote: Well, i know its not what you want to hear, but the country was founded on Christian principles. Every school and college was Christian, you'd read from the Bible daily. Evolution is just a theory..
I recommend the first thing you do is atleast be honest to yourself and recognise that you do not have a "lack of belief", rather, you believe there is no God.
What's a theory, YGninja?
Also, new guy, telling others what they believe isn't going to get you far around here.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 9:29 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (January 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm)YGninja Wrote: Well, i know its not what you want to hear, but the country was founded on Christian principles. Every school and college was Christian, you'd read from the Bible daily. Evolution is just a theory..
I recommend the first thing you do is atleast be honest to yourself and recognise that you do not have a "lack of belief", rather, you believe there is no God.
What's a theory, YGninja?
Also, new guy, telling others what they believe isn't going to get you far around here. Well it seems his only grounds for calling his parents moronic is that they're Christian.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm)YGninja Wrote: (January 27, 2015 at 8:40 pm)jackriot100 Wrote: so i am looking for a bit of advice from any atheist willing to help. i am 15 and i have really moronic parents who are christian. they think the country was founded on Christianity. they say things like "evolution is just a theory" and considering i aspire to be an evolutionary biologist this irritates me. i do not know what to do about it. i would say do nothing but i feel like i am lying to my parents by not informing them of my lack of belief. they refuse to listen to reason about all subjects involving religion. and example of this was when we talked about how most of the founding fathers were deistic not christian, which was a point i brought up about when trying to explain how we are a secular country founded by secular philosophies. i simply ask for advice coming from any helpful atheist. i do not mean to sound childish but considering circumstances i felt the need to put my trust in a forum of people who are hopefully not as stupid.
Well, i know its not what you want to hear, but the country was founded on Christian principles. Every school and college was Christian, you'd read from the Bible daily. Evolution is just a theory..
I recommend the first thing you do is atleast be honest to yourself and recognise that you do not have a "lack of belief", rather, you believe there is no God.
It was not founded as a christian nation. The only time the constitution mentions religion is to say we shouldn't establish one. The Treaty of Tripoli clearly states this country was not founded as a christian nation.
Yes, evolution is just a theory. This means that while it's a fact that it happens, some details of it are up for debate, and the theory may be revised as new evidence comes in. It is still a fact that it happens.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:35 pm
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(January 28, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (January 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm)YGninja Wrote: Well, i know its not what you want to hear, but the country was founded on Christian principles. Every school and college was Christian, you'd read from the Bible daily. Evolution is just a theory..
I recommend the first thing you do is atleast be honest to yourself and recognise that you do not have a "lack of belief", rather, you believe there is no God.
It was not founded as a christian nation. The only time the constitution mentions religion is to say we shouldn't establish one. The Treaty of Tripoli clearly states this country was not founded as a christian nation.
Yes, evolution is just a theory. This means that while it's a fact that it happens, some details of it are up for debate, and the theory may be revised as new evidence comes in. It is still a fact that it happens.
Being in the constitution or not is largely irrelevant. 99.9% of the population were Christian at the time the country was founded. The entire ethos of the country was Christian. The constitution gives rights to freedom of religion and freedom of belief, but arguably that right in itself is a product of Christianity. You didn't see it anywhere else in the world, but time and again this line of thinking popped up in Christendom.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:38 pm
Yes the majority was christian, but the founders were not trying to set up a christian theocracy in America. They saw what was happening around Europe, with catholics and protestants killing each other over how to worship the same god, and didn't want that here.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:38 pm
This is an introduction thread...
This is an introduction thread...
This is an introduction thread...
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:40 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm)YGninja Wrote: (January 27, 2015 at 8:40 pm)jackriot100 Wrote: so i am looking for a bit of advice from any atheist willing to help. i am 15 and i have really moronic parents who are christian. they think the country was founded on Christianity. they say things like "evolution is just a theory" and considering i aspire to be an evolutionary biologist this irritates me. i do not know what to do about it. i would say do nothing but i feel like i am lying to my parents by not informing them of my lack of belief. they refuse to listen to reason about all subjects involving religion. and example of this was when we talked about how most of the founding fathers were deistic not christian, which was a point i brought up about when trying to explain how we are a secular country founded by secular philosophies. i simply ask for advice coming from any helpful atheist. i do not mean to sound childish but considering circumstances i felt the need to put my trust in a forum of people who are hopefully not as stupid.
Well, i know its not what you want to hear, but the country was founded on Christian principles. Every school and college was Christian, you'd read from the Bible daily. Evolution is just a theory..
I recommend the first thing you do is atleast be honest to yourself and recognise that you do not have a "lack of belief", rather, you believe there is no God.
Actually it was founded on principles that had been around long before Christianity was even thought of, in one form or another.
And the treat of Tripoli clearly states that the US was not founded as a Christian nation.
Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory, meaning it's a fact.
No most atheists don't believe in gods, any gods. Very few claim that those gods don't exist.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:48 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 9:38 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: This is an introduction thread...
This is an introduction thread...
This is an introduction thread...
Steel's right.
Mod hat on:
This is an introduction thread. Everyone stop debating, and take it outside. This includes you, Becca.
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:51 pm
Oh wait! It's an intro thread, but it's in the "atheism" subforum, so anything goes, within the rules! Come on back in, everybody!
YG- you didn't answer my question:
What is the definition of a scientific theory?
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RE: atheist looking for advice
January 28, 2015 at 9:52 pm
While technically it's an introduction post it's not in the introductions thread.
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