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**thesummerqueen** · February 1, 2015 at 11:31 pm

oh yes, you're very, very Christ like.

**Silver** · February 1, 2015 at 11:42 pm

It would be nice if we could see this god effecting any change whatsoever. It is easy, rather convenient actually, to simply invoke the name of god for personally altering one's life for the better, but all we can observe is the individual personally altering his life and invoking the name of something that only seems to exist as an imaginative concept in the mind. Stating that god changed one's life is essentially intellectually dishonest, for it is merely the individual changing his life and giving credit where it is not due.

~~Drich~~ · February 2, 2015 at 1:35 am

(February 1, 2015 at 11:42 pm)Sionnach Wrote: It would be nice if we could see this god effecting any change whatsoever. It is easy, rather convenient actually, to simply invoke the name of god for personally altering one's life for the better, but all we can observe is the individual personally altering his life and invoking the name of something that only seems to exist as an imaginative concept in the mind. Stating that god changed one's life is essentially intellectually dishonest, for it is merely the individual changing his life and giving credit where it is not due.

But again you can..

The only reason you haven't is commitment.

As I pointed out, many times God follows the mirical outline.

If you look in the bible at the miricles performed by Christ to indivisuals, you will see this outline I have identified. In that whom ever Christ heals or 'fixes' has tried everything and all but completely given up... That is what makes the miricle so miriclous. Because everyone involved knew that this person's situation was without any recourse or hope. Then God steps in and carries the person out of thier situation.

Many of you ask why doesn't God work miricles now? Because many of you will not faithfully endure a trial long enough to come to the point where their is no other hope or explaination than God saving you from situation.

Again, that is what it means to knock.. To persist in asking and seeking even in the absents of any or all hope. If you can humble yourself enough to do this then God has promised to 'show up.'

**Silver** · (This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 1:55 am by Silver.)

My mind is open, but it is god who has never bothered to make an appearance.

And knocking, resorting to faith, is nothing more than deluding one's self that something exists when there is no evidence to support its existence. I am no more going to blindly have faith in god's existence than I would blindly have faith in the Tooth Fairy's existence. If you allow yourself the delusion that anything can exist, you will believe the most ridiculous things. Religious faith makes normally rational people rather irrational.

**Cyberman** · February 2, 2015 at 2:11 am

I'm pretty sure this subject has come up before. Assuming I didn't dream it, my answer is the same as the one I recall giving before: I do not give permission for you to quote anything of mine offsite, even partially or paraphrased. I cannot trust that my words will be represented accurately or fairly. Sorry.

TubbyTubby · February 2, 2015 at 2:18 am

(February 2, 2015 at 1:35 am)Drich Wrote: Many of you ask why doesn't God work miricles now? Because many of you will not faithfully endure a trial long enough to come to the point where their is no other hope or explaination than God saving you from situation.

It would be a miracle if god could sort your spelling and grammar out. We've certainly endured it long enough to be saved from this situation.

Fidel_Castronaut · February 2, 2015 at 3:36 am

Who?

Nope · February 2, 2015 at 10:35 am

Instead of quoting people here why not visit atheist blogs and leave a comment that you would like to debate on your blog? A few of them might visit your blog and then you can begin a discussion

Tonus · February 2, 2015 at 10:41 am

(February 1, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Drich Wrote: The first thought is to ask if it would be alright to maybe post a few 'atheist' responses and my follow ups..

I have no problem with you using my posts or parts of them in your blog.

**thesummerqueen** · February 2, 2015 at 10:50 am

The web may still be the wild west in some aspects, but if I were you I would be extremely careful who you quote and how. I would get agreements up front and in writing.

Mostly because some of us also have family members who were in the military - you know, that status you keep trying to "prove". Mine's a retired Ranger who also lawyers for the government. I probably wouldn't bother him about some delusional Christian misquoting me on the net, but I'm also not the only person you've been interacting with who knows people with friends or family who would happily pursue legal action against possible misrepresentation on the web.

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