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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Those are a lot of words that I understand about half of. Is there a really dumbed down version of it?
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Well I read it understood all the words individually but in that order....
I think I need someone to dumb it down a tad.
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm by robvalue.)
Does science really say the universe had a beginning at the moment? I thought it said that what happened prior to a certain point is unknown.
Kalam is a terrible argument, anyway. It doesn't even get to god, let alone a favourite god.
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm
(February 9, 2015 at 2:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Those are a lot of words that I understand about half of. Is there a really dumbed down version of it?
Not so great minds think alike.
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm
There's no need to scientifically refute the Kalam argument. It fails on its own just fine.
Still, it would be kind of neat to rub something like this in WLC's face.
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:14 pm
(February 9, 2015 at 2:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Those are a lot of words that I understand about half of. Is there a really dumbed down version of it?
I second this. I'm usually pretty in-the-know, but...
(February 9, 2015 at 2:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Most of us are familiar the Kalam's cosmological argument and its flaws.
Could you define "Kalam's cosmological argument". Or, alternatively, "most", "us", and "are".
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
February 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm
Oversimplified version: The authors applied a quantum mechanics corrections to general relativity. This ellimanted the Big Bang as a infinitely small point with all the mass and energy in it. It produced a finite size that is infinity old i.e. the universe had no beginning.
