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RE: Is science educantion enough
February 25, 2015 at 12:16 pm
(February 25, 2015 at 2:46 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: Intro science + Critical thinking classes + some basic logic classes = enough.
It would be enough IF people used it. Emotion can get in the way sometimes and head off the use of critical thinking in the first place. I'm not an expert by any means but as I understand it, it is physiologically impossible to completely eliminate emotional bias.
Maybe it would help if that was part of the education. If people understood how susceptible they are to wrong thinking, they might be more open to the logic of someone else who is not as emotionally biased on a particular subject as they are.
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RE: Is science educantion enough
February 25, 2015 at 2:08 pm
Let me first address my education misspelling. It was late, and I was tired. Nevertheless, fuck you guys!
"Intro science + Critical thinking classes + some basic logic classes = enough." doesn't address rational-selfishness or reinforced-memories. It takes humility to admit the anecdotal evidence you experienced is subject to error.
I'm not exactly sure how to counter the rational-selfishness other than what the article suggested, show the positive side of the gamble.
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RE: Is science educantion enough
February 25, 2015 at 3:52 pm
I think it was some old Greek guy who said, "The first thing to know is that we know nothing at all. Not even this. So like, forget I said anything."
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RE: Is science educantion enough
February 25, 2015 at 3:56 pm
Speaking from my personal experience, just science isn't enough. Critical thinking and questioning needs to go alongside it. I know plenty of people who, despite being educated and well-informed maintain irrational beliefs, because they haven't learnt to question them.
Unfortunately, just like god, the education system in my country works in mysterious ways, so... :p
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RE: Is science educantion enough
February 25, 2015 at 4:15 pm
(February 25, 2015 at 1:02 am)Surgenator Wrote: This article suggest that science education is not enough to persuade people to change their beliefs. It focus on the anti-vaxxers but the points it brings up are applicable to all science misconceptions and maybe even religion.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-med...e-hardline
Quote:You might think that climate sceptics would be likely to be more ignorant of science than those who accept the consensus that humans are causing a global increase in temperatures. But you’d be wrong. The individuals with the highest degree of scientific literacy are not those most concerned about climate change, they are the group which is most divided over the issue.
If this is true, how should you go about changing someones mind?
That quote seems a tad misleading. The study authors actually said:
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Members of the public with the highest degrees of science literacy and technical reasoning capacity were not the most concerned about climate change. Rather, they were the ones among whom cultural polarization was greatest. "
So not climate scientists, which one might misunderstand the article to imply.
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