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RE: Battling Atheism
March 12, 2015 at 1:31 pm
It's fun to see theists have withdrawn and see non-engagement as their best strategy. "Don't look, don't see."
In a world where information is widely distributed and communication near universal (and gaining), burying your head in the sand becomes difficult to impossible.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 12, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Quote:As I mentioned in my "New from NJ" post in Intros, I'll bring up how when I'm bored in the car, sometimes (a lot of times) i'll listen to catholic/christian talk tadio
I can't imagine ever being that bored.
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm
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(March 12, 2015 at 1:31 pm)JuliaL Wrote: It's fun to see theists have withdrawn and see non-engagement as their best strategy. "Don't look, don't see."
In a world where information is widely distributed and communication near universal (and gaining), burying your head in the sand becomes difficult to impossible.
withdrawn and see non-engagement as their best strategy.
They're playing god! lol
(March 12, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:As I mentioned in my "New from NJ" post in Intros, I'll bring up how when I'm bored in the car, sometimes (a lot of times) i'll listen to catholic/christian talk tadio
I can't imagine ever being that bored.
lol, probably wasnt the best wording.. i listen to break down what they say and critique, even if just to myself... although they never present any evidence.. (how could they...) they just read scripture and occasionally get into politics cause you know.. there is "no" separation of church and state...
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 12, 2015 at 9:25 pm
I'm thinking they have a good point. You cannot fight atheism. Atheism is the product of belief. Just like 1+1=2, belief is eventually going to prove itself wrong, and you will be left with reson. If nobody belived in gods, atheism wouldn't even exist as a term.
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 15, 2015 at 9:21 pm
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Dear Father,
I fear our family cat may be an atheist. Repeated prayer does not seem to have help. Should we try a exorcist?
Worried
Cheerful Charlie
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 20, 2015 at 7:38 pm
I gather that when people say "I'll pray for you" it's a noncognitivist way of saying "Here's how I'm expressing that I care about you."
Because surely, if they didn't care about you one iota, they wouldn't even bother praying for you.
So when Christians say they're praying for me, I appreciate it. 
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 20, 2015 at 8:46 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 11:20 am)QuarkDriven Wrote: and...................... go
Circle the wagons Pilgrim, them arrows are sharp and stingy!
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 20, 2015 at 9:14 pm
(March 20, 2015 at 7:38 pm)Delicate Wrote: I gather that when people say "I'll pray for you" it's a noncognitivist way of saying "Here's how I'm expressing that I care about you."
Because surely, if they didn't care about you one iota, they wouldn't even bother praying for you.
So when Christians say they're praying for me, I appreciate it.
It could be seen that way, I suppose. Sometimes a person feels that the only way to express support for someone, when they are powerless to truly help, might be to tell that someone that they're in the person's thoughts. It's another way of saying "I'm here for you"; comforting, perhaps, at least in intention. Something to say when there's nothing to say.
Or it may be that the person truly believes that they're doing some good, something useful, by offering prayer.
Then there are those who want to be thought of as being helpful but don't actually want to do anything. To them, it's more important to be seen to be caring than actually doing the caring. Makes them feel superior, you might say.
There's also the type who offer to pray because the other person doesn't match up to their standards - there's something broken in them that the praying person decided needs fixing.
Finally, of course, we have those who use the offer of prayer as a silver bullet to win an argument by scorched Earth. They would most likely win at boardgames by tipping the board over as soon as it looks like they're losing. It's their way of saying "Yeah?Well, fuck you!"
I wouldn't exactly appreciate most of these offers, personally.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 20, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Shit I'm on my phone and couldn't figure out who Mezmo! is. So Chad did a shit and run, huh?
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RE: Battling Atheism
March 21, 2015 at 12:18 am
(March 20, 2015 at 8:46 pm)daver49 Wrote: Circle the wagons Pilgrim, them arrows are sharp and stingy!
Lol, those hardcore Catholics sure do sting. 
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