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Poll: Should College Athletes be paid?
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No. They get paid with a chance at an education and a chance at the Pros.
13.33%
2 13.33%
They shouldn't get paid a salary or stipend, but should be able to profit off of their own names.
13.33%
2 13.33%
They should be paid according to how much money the college makes off of them.
0%
0 0%
They should be paid like professionals.
6.67%
1 6.67%
I literally could not give 2% of a shit.
26.67%
4 26.67%
Other.
40.00%
6 40.00%
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Should NCAA "Student Athletes" get paid?
#11
RE: Should NCAA "Student Athletes" get paid?
I don't get why one is having these kids do work like this in the first place? Why don't they get jobs instead in which they get a regular salary. I'm confused.
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#13
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I think all these people earn more than our head of state...
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#14
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(March 17, 2015 at 2:23 pm)Alex K Wrote: I don't get why one is having these kids do work like this in the first place? Why don't they get jobs instead in which they get a regular salary. I'm confused.

They make a shitload of money for colleges and the NCAA. All the ticket sales/booster donations/merchandising go straight into the coffers and none goes to the students. Also, one of the NCAA rules is that 'student athletes' cannot have jobs in which they make $2000 a year more than the cost of their tuition grant. Also, there are so many ways you can get in trouble with the NCAA as an athlete:

NCAA Bylaws Wrote:A new NCAA rule permits a Division I student-athlete to earn legitimate on- and off-campus employment income during semester or term time, provided such income in combination with other financial aid included in the student-athleteís individual limit does not exceed the value of a full grant plus $2,000, provided:

A) The student-athlete has spent one academic year in residence at the certifying institution prior to working; and
B) The student-athlete is eligible academically to compete for the institution.

Further, prior to commencement of employment, the student-athlete and the employer must sign a written statement to be kept on file in the athletics department which specifies the following:

A) The student-athlete may not receive any remuneration for the value or utility that the student-athlete may have for the employer because of the publicity, reputation, fame or personal following he or she has obtained because of athletics ability;
B) The student-athlete is to be compensated only for work actually performed; and
C) The student-athlete is to be compensated at a rate commensurate with the going rate in the locality for similar services.

In addition, a student-athlete who satisfies the above-mentioned conditions may receive on- or off-campus employment earnings up to $2,000 gross without considering such aid to be institutional aid, provided the employment (other than employment in the institutionís recreational sports unit) is not in the athletics department. All employment earnings from work in the athletic department or athletic facilities are considered institutional aid.

So if you are a popular student athlete during the offseason looking to make some money for food during your season, and the NCAA can prove that people are coming to the establishment because of your presence there, then you can be suspended. And you can't work as a freshman. (Red shirt freshmen get screwed over by this.)

And if you are that popular student athlete who is trying to make ends meet but you are on full scholarship, you can only earn $2,000 a year.

Getting rid of college athletics is never going to happen. It's the reason too many underprivileged kids even get an opportunity to go to college, and since only 2% of the athletes ever go pro, that's a lot of college diplomas that wouldn't exist without college athletics. But more than anything, it makes people very, very rich, and it makes rich people very, very happy.

The funny thing will be when all these right to work republicans see their student athletes form unions like the one at Northwestern University. Will politics or Southern Football prevail? Roll damn Tide.
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#15
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Quote:It's the reason too many underprivileged kids even get an opportunity to go to college, and since only 2% of the athletes ever go pro, that's a lot of college diplomas that wouldn't exist without college athletics.


What makes you think they actually graduate?


http://www.theatlantic.com/education/arc...rs/282258/

Quote:At least half of black football players on the top-10 teams won’t graduate within six years of enrolling.
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#16
RE: Should NCAA "Student Athletes" get paid?
(March 17, 2015 at 3:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:It's the reason too many underprivileged kids even get an opportunity to go to college, and since only 2% of the athletes ever go pro, that's a lot of college diplomas that wouldn't exist without college athletics.


What makes you think they actually graduate?


http://www.theatlantic.com/education/arc...rs/282258/

Quote:At least half of black football players on the top-10 teams won’t graduate within six years of enrolling.


Not all of them graduate, but there's still a whole lot of Division I and II athletes who may not have ever gone to college that wind up with careers in something other than sports simply because of their athletic ability and the opportunity it gave them.

There are some flaws with that study when applied to this context, as well. The top ten teams have a disproportionate amount of players that go professional at one level or another. They also have a disproportionate amount of student athletes that are there solely for their athletic talent and nothing else. To base the academic success of the entire system on black men in the NCAA Football Top 10 is a little ludicrous. I am talking about men and women that come from troubled areas who wouldn't otherwise have an opportunity for higher education outside of their athletic talent. I saw many cases of this at Navy.

Also, that study is just for football players. We are talking about all sports, here. We are talking about crew, tennis, soccer, wrestling, track and field, etc. The overwhelming majority of the scholarships that are awarded to NCAA athletes are not football scholarships.
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#17
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Misleading. The NCAA includes lots of sports which don't bring in the big bucks to pad their stats.
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#18
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(March 17, 2015 at 2:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Colleges should worry more about educating students and do away with these bullshit sports programs.


Sports is part of the education. So we shouldn't do away with it. In fact I think a little more insistence that academic students participate in some form of sports would not be amiss.

But no one should be allowed to continue his tenure in a college if he can't get qualify for an credible academic degree. Colleges and universities shouldn't raise a crop of dimwitted sports monkeys solely as an recruiting aid. If students attend a university on the strength of its sports teams, they probably won't make very good students anyway.
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#19
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(March 17, 2015 at 2:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 5Colleges should worry more about educating students and do away with these bullshit sports programs.

While I agree in principle, in reality it would mean cutting a lot of non-sports related programs along with the sports.

Right or wrong, college level sports generates mountains of cash for the schools. Some of it does get funneled back into laboratories, research grants, etc...
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#20
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Jeez that sounds like slavery, despicable. How can you write such immoral rules?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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