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Dystopia · March 19, 2015 at 6:15 pm

I voted for "I ate an apple today" because I don't know and don't care

**Napoléon** · March 19, 2015 at 6:21 pm

(March 19, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Irrational Wrote: I do somewhat agree with SeanBean about one thing. Even in an infinite number of universes, why should all conceivable possibilities be realized? Maybe it'll never get to the point in any universe that all books are too hot to touch because of certain limits imposed by nature and rational thinking. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to make all books that exist in a universe too hot to touch.

This, essentially my main contention.

LostLocke · March 19, 2015 at 7:25 pm

(March 19, 2015 at 6:10 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Anyone remember this series?

I remember Sliders.
What I don't remember is Gary Cole and Daniel Dae Kim being in it.... Wink

**vorlon13** · March 19, 2015 at 7:41 pm

The 'thing' about parallel or other universes is it makes the apparently weird set of physical constants, laws, properties of spacetime, and amount of matter in our universe that makes it compatible with life aren't so 'weird' if there are a multitude of attempts, and only the seemingly weird universes generate a life form capable of working out that the laws, constants, etc. etc. of our universe aren't constrained to just the subset of life compatible values.

What are the odds of dribbling paint randomly from above on a horizontal canvas and perfectly duplicating the Mona Lisa, on the first and only attempt ??

Tiny, but not zero.

If allowed attempt after attempt for 10^10^10^34 years, you're going to get damn close many, many times.

Now imagine the perfected Mona Lisa, contemplating her manner of 'creation'.

Which one is more 'logical' ?

The randomly getting it right the first time one, or getting it right after quadrillions of quadrillions of attempts ??

(that's either a brilliant analogy, or a turd, haven't decided myself yet Tongue

)

GrandizerII · March 19, 2015 at 9:09 pm

This makes me wonder. When we assign an extremely low probability to a certain event happening, must it always be because there is a remote possibility to it? Don't we sometimes assign a probability > 0 (even if it's extremely close to 0) because we're not sure if it's actually impossible? If the latter, then not all events that we assign a probability of greater than 0 to must necessarily happen in some universe in an infinite multiverse.

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: March 19, 2015 at 9:51 pm by Anomalocaris.)

(March 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm)SeanBean Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 10:41 am)Chuck Wrote: Besides mere incredulity, what other basis do have have for thinking parallel universes are "stupid"?

Is that not enough?

What basis do you have for thinking they are plausible let alone possible? If something seems incredulous I'm not inclined to entertain the notion. But the reason I made this thread is that so many scientists seem to do exactly that. All I want to know is why. Why entertain what is a seemingly ludicrous proposition on the face of it. Perhaps more ludicrous than believing in god.

That's not enough. The basis for the many worlds scenario of parallel universe is it appears to the most parsimonious explanation. That trumps mere incredulity. Any one can be incredulous about anything.

**Napoléon** · March 19, 2015 at 10:25 pm

(March 19, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: That's not enough. The basis for the many worlds scenario of parallel universe is it appears to the most parsimonious explanation. That trumps mere incredulity. Any one can be incredulous about anything.

Did you miss the rest of my post or just choose to ignore it?

GrandizerII · March 20, 2015 at 8:56 am

(March 19, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm)SeanBean Wrote: Is that not enough?

What basis do you have for thinking they are plausible let alone possible? If something seems incredulous I'm not inclined to entertain the notion. But the reason I made this thread is that so many scientists seem to do exactly that. All I want to know is why. Why entertain what is a seemingly ludicrous proposition on the face of it. Perhaps more ludicrous than believing in god.

That's not enough. The basis for the many worlds scenario of parallel universe is it appears to the most parsimonious explanation.

That would depend on how you describe MWI in terms of implications.

**Alex K** · March 20, 2015 at 9:12 am

(March 20, 2015 at 8:56 am)Irrational Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: That's not enough. The basis for the many worlds scenario of parallel universe is it appears to the most parsimonious explanation.

That would depend on how you describe MWI in terms of implications.

I don't understand what you mean...

GrandizerII · March 20, 2015 at 9:21 am

(March 20, 2015 at 9:12 am)Alex K Wrote:
(March 20, 2015 at 8:56 am)Irrational Wrote: That would depend on how you describe MWI in terms of implications.

I don't understand what you mean...

Is there a universe out there where all books in existence in that universe are too hot for any human being to touch?

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Poll: Are Parallel Universes real? This poll is closed.
They are possible	29.17%	7	29.17%
They are possible and plausible	29.17%	7	29.17%
They are not possible	0%	0	0%
Pseudo-scientific bullshit	12.50%	3	12.50%
I ate an apple today	29.17%	7	29.17%
Total		24 vote(s)	100%

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