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Failure condition for god
#81
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm)Chas Wrote: Because there is no evidence of the existence of souls.

Keep telling yourself that.
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#82
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm)Chas Wrote: Because there is no evidence of the existence of souls.

Keep telling yourself that.

Show the evidence or shut the fuck up.
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#83
RE: Failure condition for god
Through out the years here, I've shown good philosophical evidence for it, in form of many arguments. I think it doesn't matter how obvious and sound the argument is, you guys don't want God to exist, so you oppose evidence for him no matter how clear it is.
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#84
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Through out the years here, I've shown good philosophical evidence for it, in form of many arguments. I think it doesn't matter how obvious and sound the argument is, you guys don't want God to exist, so you oppose evidence for him no matter how clear it is.

Based on what I've seen in my admittedly short time here, your entire argument system is basically 'I read an old book that told me stuff, nurr-nurrny nurr nurr I'm right so there'.
Your argument is not obvious and sounds, because it goes against everything we know today. If God appeared before the human race and explained how he ran the universe, I would absolutely believe him and believe in him, because that would be direct evidence. Appeals to emotion fallacies from keyboard bible/Quran thumpers do nothing to move me.
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#85
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Iroscato Wrote:
(April 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Through out the years here, I've shown good philosophical evidence for it, in form of many arguments. I think it doesn't matter how obvious and sound the argument is, you guys don't want God to exist, so you oppose evidence for him no matter how clear it is.

Based on what I've seen in my admittedly short time here, your entire argument system is basically 'I read an old book that told me stuff, nurr-nurrny nurr nurr I'm right so there'.
Your argument is not obvious and sounds, because it goes against everything we know today. If God appeared before the human race and explained how he ran the universe, I would absolutely believe him and believe in him, because that would be direct evidence. Appeals to emotion fallacies from keyboard bible/Quran thumpers do nothing to move me.

I'm not talking about Islam. I'm talking about arguments I put forth for God while I was a Deist.
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#86
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Through out the years here, I've shown good philosophical evidence for it, in form of many arguments. I think it doesn't matter how obvious and sound the argument is, you guys don't want God to exist, so you oppose evidence for him no matter how clear it is.

You clearly don't understand what evidence is.  

None of your arguments have been sound.

Pro tip: Philosophical arguments are not evidence.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#87
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 6:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 11, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Based on what I've seen in my admittedly short time here, your entire argument system is basically 'I read an old book that told me stuff, nurr-nurrny nurr nurr I'm right so there'.
Your argument is not obvious and sounds, because it goes against everything we know today. If God appeared before the human race and explained how he ran the universe, I would absolutely believe him and believe in him, because that would be direct evidence. Appeals to emotion fallacies from keyboard bible/Quran thumpers do nothing to move me.

I'm not talking about Islam. I'm talking about arguments I put forth for God while I was a Deist.

You're all basically the same to atheists, though. You all claim to have knowledge of a higher power and the supernatural, and you all fail to provide substantial evidence that doesn't require science to be torn down and started over from scratch. You have nothing except your own gullible nature and hot air. I would pity you, except you seem to want to remain wilfully ignorant and not educate yourself, so my well of pity is somewhat dry.
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#88
RE: Failure condition for god
Why do they always say we don't want god to exist? That's such a stupid bullshit thing to say. It's true I wouldn't want the malicious sociopathic god of the Quran or the Bible to exist (anymore than I would wish for Stalin to be immortal an rule us all for all time), but would I want a loving god that actually gave a shit about humans, and took care of our souls, if we had them, after we died? Sure!

But again, there is no evidence, or even sound arguments, for the existence of any kind of being like that.
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#89
RE: Failure condition for god
(April 11, 2015 at 5:39 am)robvalue Wrote: Pizza: ahah! God is capable of stabilising himself. So that means some things are capable of stablizing themselves. How do we know the universe is not one of those things? Pzzam! Piaouuu! Bang! Obviously the rebuttal is not aimed to you Smile Nor my little toy gun noises.

Because the universe is contingent and not necessary. Nevermind the fact that a "universe" of some sort would have to exist no matter what, since pure nothing(lack of ability, not to be confused with the physics definition of nothing which is something) is not a thing and can't exist.
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#90
RE: Failure condition for god
Hey, what now? Big Grin

The universe is contingent and not necessary...

Can you explain that please, assuming it is serious?
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