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The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
#41
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
If you collect all the verses of day and night, and the look at the Shia literature about nights, for example, "ten nights" refers to Al-Hassan to Al-Hassan or laylatal qadr being the reality of Fatima, or that "Qadr" (greatness or power) refers to Allah in the Night of Qadr, and then explaining in other hadiths, that "Angels and the Spirit descend in it from every affair" is reality through out the year not just on one night, it shows laylal qadr on month of Ramadan is a parable of the station of Mohammad and his truth, as well as his family, and other hadiths stating their nasab (origin) is Suratal Qadr.

Likewise, the hadiths talk about 7 veils of light, and other times 70 and other times 70 000, and the Quran says he created 7 heavens and the like of the same number of earths...so what earth mean, obviously people knew there was more planets then 7, so this is referring to a spiritual reality. 

Likewise, the heavens and the earth being cloven together doesn't refer to big bang, because there was no way disbelievers were expected to see that with the scientific knowledge they had, so it's referring to a spiritual reality, showing all praise/light is from God, he is the outward and the inward, but that everything was once together in a form of a light and this refers to the pure state "And his throne was upon water".

Likewise, if you read about Abraham's spiritual awakening and sight of the spiritual kingdom with the star, moon, and then sun, and that being just a beginning of his journey, we can see the concept of divine nights and divine days.

Of course Quran was never meant to be read alone, but it said itself "Therefore ask the family of the reminder if you do not know".
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#42
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
(April 16, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Poor god.  He has all these schleps making excuses for him.  Must be a real nebbish.

He has you caring enough to post endlessly about Him.

No, it's idiots like you who keep people posting. 

(April 16, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Did this guy finally jump the shark?  

No. I've always looked down on you pampered Americans who whine about nothing, so no jumping the shark there.

Your Christian love overfloweth.

Fucking hypocrite.
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#43
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
@OP: If you are grasping at straws to believe, then you don't blindly believe like you are supposed to.
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#44
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
(April 17, 2015 at 1:56 pm)LastPoet Wrote: @OP: If you are grasping at straws to believe, then you don't blindly believe like you are supposed to.

Who says you are suppose to blindly believe?

"Do not follow that which you have no knowledge of" - Quran
"I call upon sight/insight, I and who follows me"-Quran
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#45
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
That's always been the biggest difference between Christianity and Islam to me; Islam isn't as comfortable taking things on faith, so that I may be endlessly entertained by their attempts to scientifically justify an ancient book about non-sense. How long can they keep it up? How many gaps will science fill and displace their god before the Quran reads "God exists"?
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#46
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
The Quran says "bring your proof if you are truthful". It doesn't want people attributing things to God without a proof or a clear authority.
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#47
RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
...and yet...
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: The 6 days creation in Quran, must it be literal?
(April 17, 2015 at 2:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The Quran says "bring your proof if you are truthful". It doesn't want people attributing things to God without a proof or a clear authority.

And there is no proof or clear authority.  So, there's that.  Dodgy
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