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Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
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RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
(10th May 2015, 22:00)Exian Wrote: I don't know what you mean by "pickle" but I'm guessing you mean make it more acidic (?), but I thought lime would make it more basic??

I'm reading that I can't just blindly bring my pH levels up, because my hydrogen levels may be low, but my soil content may be fine with clay and magnesium, or whatever combination of minerals that are able to hold on to nutrients.

I'm thinking I'll have to get a pH test as well as a mineral content analysis. I know I have a shit load of clay a foot down, just from using the auger last fall building the pasture fence, so I'll be curious to see what percentage is in my soil. Probably a good thing to know. Damn, I just wanted to kill some weeds, not learn some shit. Tongue

It wouldn't actually make the garden more acidic..it's extremely difficult to achieve longterm change in soil ph as the ph is a result of a whole host of factors if, left unmolested by yourself, it will trend to regardless.  Vinegar will, at very high concentrations, topkill weeds (it'll kill everything thats not a weed even dead-er).  Trouble with that is that with no overgrowth to contend with the weeds will run rampant.  Basically killing off their competition.  If you want to effectively use vingar (or any topkiller) you have to run the knifes edge. You have to let the weed go to seed, dump tons of resources into the seed..then topkill the seed before it germinates.  That -could- disrupt local spread for a single year.  The horsetail will come back though..rhizomes - up to 20 feet deep...I shit you not.  Even scraping the bed might not work.
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#22
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
So, nuking from orbit, if it doesn't burn clear down to bedrock may not work either ??

Fuck !!
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#23
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
Shit's tenacious. I like to think of it as a solid state storage device for nitrogen, personally.
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#24
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
Yeah, I was reading about the rhizomes. That's pretty fucked. So, my lawn is clear if this rush; is that due to being out competed like you're saying? If so, I'm wondering if scrapping the garden and making it all lawn would work to kill it. Then, start a new garden next year with prevention in mind. That is, if the rhizomes aren't just laying dormant.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

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#25
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
Could be a number of things.  Some People™ used to plant them as ornamentals, your house is a windbreak, the lawn has adequate topcover....you mow it alot..etc.  You sure your yard is clear....? If it is, it's likely an issue of establishment rather than competition...and don't expect it to be clear forever. The stuff is cancer...seriously nasty.
(all that said..it doesn't really -do- anything that would concern you. Your grass looks fine, so, obviously it's a variety that can coexist...not all are so lucky..thats the only real problem with horsetail, it acts as a germination inhibitor for grasses)
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#26
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
Oh, that's true. Could be I don't see it because it gets mowed. It's a nice soft lawn though, you'd think it'd kinda hurt to walk on the shoots, but maybe they haven't reached that point before getting mowed. Yeah, I'll have to check. Fuck me, man, this shit is insidious.

I saw that people pot it for ornamental use. I can see that; it's kind of pretty. I saw there was some medicinal and sanding/polishing uses for it, too. Maybe I'll just put a sign out front and call myself a farmer. Like you said, this stuff's better at it than I.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#27
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
(10th May 2015, 23:14)Exian Wrote: Maybe I'll just put a sign out front and call myself a farmer.

....now everyone's going to steal my brilliant business model..lol.
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RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
(10th May 2015, 22:57)vorlon13 Wrote: So, nuking from orbit, if it doesn't burn clear down to bedrock may not work either ??

Fuck !!

Indeed....we're just renting space and time from these fuckers.  It's their rock, not ours.
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#29
RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
Well, thanks for all the info and help, gentlemen. I'm gonna digest it and maybe a little more and hopefully come up with an attack plan.

That dead looking tree will be for another thread. My neighbors tell me it blooms pretty, but I'm convinced its dead or diseased. To be continued...
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Horsetail Rush? Help greenthumbs!
(10th May 2015, 20:50)Rhythm Wrote: if you're going to pot everything you want to save......scrape the bed.  Spray the triclo, sure....then scrape the bed.  Dirt is a dollar for 3 cubic feet at the Home Despot.  The selling point of garden pesticides is that they'll save you labor (bed scraping, for example)...but thats -ad copy-.  There's no free lunch.

-When you replant, do it densely and avoid the gravel.  You want to surface to be covered with some kind of turf or mat (so gravel is out...gravel is inviting weeds, think about it from the weeds POV..gravel and rough, bare places are sort of what they do - pioneers).

I've got a friend who would advise covering everything in layers of cardboard or newspaper with new dirt added on top.twenty or thirty years ought to do it.
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