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Why be good?
Why be good?
(May 28, 2015 at 8:29 pm)Nestor Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: A human wasn't designed to lie, which is why it can be detected.
Humans were too designed to lie, it's just sometimes easy to detect, such as in the case of Christianity, for example.
(May 28, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Hebrew law allowed for one to go into anothers cornfield and eat all he wanted to if he was hungry, he just couldn't take any out, THAT would stealing.
Lol. Ooh that makes perfect sense. It's almost like saying, if you take my girlfriend home and fuck her that would be really uncool, but if you want to come fuck her at my house when I'm not home it's totally different.

Humans were not designed to lie because we were not designed. We evolved the ability to lie because it is useful at times.
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RE: Why be good?
Never go Full Huggy.

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(May 28, 2015 at 8:32 pm)KUSA Wrote: Humans were not designed to lie because we were not designed. We evolved the ability to lie because it is useful at times.

So then why does your physiology get all janky during a lie, if it's part of evolution?
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(May 28, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 8:32 pm)KUSA Wrote: Humans were not designed to lie because we were not designed. We evolved the ability to lie because it is useful at times.

So then why does your physiology get all janky during a lie, if it's part of evolution?

Probably the same reason you get all janky when you're speaking in tongues and hoping they think you're possessed by the spirit.

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(May 28, 2015 at 8:43 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Probably the same reason you get all janky when you're speaking in tongues and hoping they think you're possessed by the spirit.
I would argue that you probably never witnessed anyone actually speak in tongues.
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(May 28, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 8:43 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Probably the same reason you get all janky when you're speaking in tongues and hoping they think you're possessed by the spirit.
I would argue that you probably never witnessed anyone actually speak in tongues.

I would argue that you probably haven't either.
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(May 28, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote: One of the stupidest ideas attributed to Jesus in the gospels is the notion that even thinking about committing a sin is a sin.  When what we want people to do is resist temptation, should they be tempted.  And to reward that will power, not sentence them to walling in guilt for having bad thoughts.
It's quite simple, the example given was if one were to lust after a woman, then they were guilty of adultery, because adultery is in their heart. If an adult man was attracted to little kids, wouldn't you say pedophilia is in his heart?

I would not say such a man had pedophilia in his heart.  I'd say he had a sexual dysfunction and should he be able to control that attraction rather than exercise it on children, I would consider him to be good man.  I would hope he got treatment and limited his contact with children.  Condemning him in advance of his actions doesn't see likely to lead to that outcome. You see, it is actions that count.

Lust is not adultery and attraction to children is not pedophilia.  Wanting a triple banana split is not not gluttony, but eating one is. Condemn a man in advance of his actions and you behave immorally yourself, and ally yourself with Big Brother, Communist China, the Inquisition, and various other unsavory punishers of thought crimes.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Huggy, the only thing the heart does is pump blood.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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(May 28, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 8:43 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Probably the same reason you get all janky when you're speaking in tongues and hoping they think you're possessed by the spirit.
I would argue that you probably never witnessed anyone actually speak in tongues.

I have and you know what its all gibberish and nothing holy easily debunked easily refuted put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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(May 28, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I would not say such a man had pedophilia in his heart.  I'd say he had a sexual dysfunction and should he be able to control that attraction rather than exercise it on children, I would consider him to be good man.  I would hope he got treatment and limited his contact with children.  Condemning him in advance of his actions doesn't see likely to lead to that outcome. You see, it is actions that count.

Lust is not adultery and attraction to children is not pedophilia.  Wanting a triple banana split is not not gluttony, but eating one is. Condemn a man in advance of his actions and you behave immorally yourself, and ally yourself with Big Brother, Communist China, the Inquisition, and various other unsavory punishers of thought crimes.

By stating the man needs treatment you acknowledge that his thoughts are clearly wrong.

Here is the question, would you be comfortable leaving him alone with a child.....
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