Why be good?

[rexbeccarox]

Becca-

Go to the page I linked. type control-f and enter the word "atheist" in the box that appears in the window at the top of the page. Hit enter.

You can hit the down arrow to go from name to name.

Or am I lying?

I did exactly that. Seven people. Liar.

Yep!  So now we're back to my question, which Randy still hasn't answered: Randy, you want to know why we're "good" (whatever that actually means), but I want to know from you.  Why should you be good?  And where is that line?  Honesty obviously doesn't fall in line with "good" for you...


Edit: actually, I just did the find function myself, and it did come up with 18 for me. Doesn't change all the other things Randy's lied about or misrepresented, though.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Perhaps we aren't as enamored of the flock/herd metaphor as you believers are.

Well-spoken, brotha.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Adam and Eve were the only people on the planet at the time.


His wife.

But in your words, "Adam and Eve were the only people on the planet at the time."

Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.

[Ravenshire]

actually, I just did the find function myself, and it did come up with 18 for me.  Doesn't change all the other things Randy's lied about or misrepresented, though.

Only if you're counting the citation links at the bottom. The word appears 18 times on the page, eight times in the short descriptions of a specific person, twice for the same person. Seven people. The Randy Catholic is still a liar.

[rexbeccarox]

Randy, do you realize that a lot of our membership, maybe even the majority, is made up of former Christians?

[IATIA]

Yep! Been there, done that.

[Esquilax]

Randy, do you realize that a lot of our membership, maybe even the majority, is made up of former Christians?

Would you be prepared to swear that in court?

[Jenny A]

You guys are aware that Tim O'Neill, an atheist member of this forum and historian by training (Master's) has written extensively against the Jesus Mythers, like Richard Carrier and David Fitzgerald, right?

And that Bart Ehrman also agrees that Jesus was a real person?

But hey, if you feel that it would be beneficial to examine each and every one of the gods to determine whether one or more of them have some legitimate claims, even that has to be better than simply denying that no God exists at all simply because these have been discarded. Folks who HAVE undertaken such studies have come to the conclusions that Jesus, a a claimant, is in a class all His own.

You so realize what limited claims they do make right?  Jesus was a man, he preached, he was crucified (though probably not for blasphemy).  That's not remotely useful to proving that Jesus was divine or resurrected, or even a messiah.  Or that virtually all historians (not theologeans) admit that the NT is far, far from historically accurate?  Right?

[Randy Carson]

Huh.  That's interesting: you found 18 converts from atheism... where exactly?  It's not denoted on the page; you'd have to go to each individual person's page to find that out, which there's no way you could do in under a minute.  You're not even trying to hide your lies anymore.




... where did Cain's wife come from?

There are seven where the word "atheist" is listed in the short description. So, give him 7. That's still double-digits short of 18. Yep. The Randy Catholic is another liar for gawd.

I didn't actually scroll down through the list...I was merely illustrating a point to another poster that in about 60 seconds, I came up with a list of names that he could easily research for himself. He had asked me for a list of names, and i showed him how to do his own homework. Get it?

Now, if you are TRULY interested, Google this: atheist converts to catholicism

You will get page links to lots of former atheists who became Catholics. You can do the same for Christianity, Judaism, Orthodoxy, what have you.

And if you are really, really interested, you can actually follow those links to the various websites where these former atheists explain why the very arguments that you now believe to be true were blown away by the truth of the gospel.

And yes, I am aware of the fact that people LEAVE faith positions, too. So spare yourself some typing.

[IATIA]

IMHO I doubt that any that have converted in either direction ever really accepted the prior position and were always going to be the convert. Call oneself a christian does not make it so, neither does calling oneself an atheist.