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The "Midldle Class" ruse in politics.
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RE: The "Midldle Class" ruse in politics.
For $250,000 dollars Hillary will give a speech to you and your friends about the perils of income inequality.
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RE: The "Midldle Class" ruse in politics.
(June 1, 2015 at 5:16 pm)wallym Wrote: For $250,000 dollars Hillary will give a speech to you and your friends about the perils of income inequality.

No it does not work that way. You cannot claim "What is wrong with wealth" then condemn your political rival for doing the same. I know it bothers GOP/Tea Party/Libertarians that they don't own a monopoly on what constitutes a good market.

Now if you want to argue that Hillary is more of a Mitt Romney liberal, that still does not negate the right side of history which liberals have been on.\. I can agree that she has not been on her messaging say like Obama was and is. 

Don't defend wealth with "they do it too". 

The top and the GOP are to blame. They played tug of war 30 years ago with blackmail which made everyone else hostage and forced government to play their game. You are not going to get away with painting both parties as the same. 

Let me lay it out for you. Liberals for the most part, and I don't speak for all, are not anti private sector. We are not against pay differences. We are against the 30 year trickle up class warfare started by the top against workers. 

I don't care that she makes that per speech. I don't care that my bosses who owned the businesses I have worked at in my work history make more than me. I do care about the gap. If the left is guilty of anything it is our voter apathy which has allowed our politicians to be pulled to the right. But our empathy as voters is there.

You are stupidly assuming any inequity is bad. The issue isn't arguing no wealth at all, the issue is the climate in which we live. 
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RE: The "Midldle Class" ruse in politics.
Holy inferences batman. Thanks for all this, I'd hate to stupidly be assuming things.

To give you an idea of where my allegiances lie, I voted VERY HAPPILY for Mitt Romney last election. And I hope to vote for Bernie Sanders in this election.

I'm not scared of socialism. I'm scared of 'socialism' enacted by people like Hillary. I'm not afraid of capitalism. I'm scared of the kind of capitalism dictated by W's government.

In the end, I've come to realize I don't care what the government does, I just want it done competently with the country's interest in mind. I believed Mitt Romney was going to treat the american economy like a company that was competing against the other countries in the world. One of the things that got ignored while we were focusing on the endless bullshit of a political election was the idea of getting aggressive with China in regards to the unfair trade practices. I don't know if that'd work, but leveling the playing field would certainly make manufacturing in the US more appealing, but would be an added expense for corporations. Something bad for corporations overall, but good for America. I believe his intention was more jobs/companies in the US. And unlike the array of dipshits us republicans tend to nominate, he was the real deal in terms of understanding how things worked. He was someone you'd actually want in charge of something.

With Bernie, he's going to try and socialize shit. Good. We probably have enough wealth to pull that off. I'm curious to hear his plan for getting the money from the billionaires. Income redistribution doesn't scare me. But if they're just going to write some expensive ineffective bullshit bill that takes money from the billionaires and helps a different set of billionaires, then fuck that. Or if it's spent stupidly as a way to buy votes for the next election, fuck that too. But nobody owns Bernie. And with such a shitty lead candidate in Hillary, there's a real chance he could get a nomination. And with the incoming shitty candidate from the right, there's a real chance he could win.
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