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Interview with a Jovo
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(June 10, 2015 at 4:56 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Dude, it's free beer. You don't ask how it's made, just hope they don't run out

You've understood how it works.

Here's their official national TV spot for the congress elections 2005 (NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY56L5GbD6Q
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#12
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looks like responsible people with a solid plan, they have my vote
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#13
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(June 10, 2015 at 6:20 am)Neimenovic Wrote: looks like responsible people with a solid plan, they have my vote

Yes, and isn't it nice how they integrate children into their political work?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#14
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This only solidifies my thinking that Germany is always exactly like the movie SLC Punk. Everywhere. Without exception.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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(June 10, 2015 at 6:29 am)Alex K Wrote: Yes, and isn't it nice how they integrate children into their political work?

They're raising a generation of politically conscious and educated voters, very important
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(June 10, 2015 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: So we were interviewing for some new cleaning posts which came up at work and I got roped into assisting with them (why an accountant is on a panel for cleaners I don't know, but whatever, was kind of fun I guess) and we had a really sweet woman come in who gave a good account of herself and her experience.

We got down to the details of the role, which included every month working a Saturday or a Sunday with a day off in the week or time in lieu. She flat out refused to work the Sunday citing her religious observance as the reason why: "I have to observe my religion which I'm very passionate about, so I cannot work Sunday's under any circumstances."

This put the cleaning manager under quite some strain as we need cleaners to fill these posts (there is actually a shortage of good cleaners in our local job market apparently), but this was causing bother as we have several other cleaners who'd love to be exempt From working Sunday's but who have also been told they must work.

I thought it was so cheeky of her to request this, especially as the job description clearly stated the working hours. I lobbied the manager to refuse her request as exemptions from work for religious observance is not an acceptable excuse to shirk your responsibilities, and he agreed. We didn't hire her.

Don't worry your not only still 'moral' you now can be considered a 'hero' for your stance of this woman's religious beliefs. I know why you feel weird about what your did. You feel hypocrisy creeping up because your actions were by definition intolerant and considered religious persecution. However If executed against a Christian or against Christianity in general. The law of general hypocrisy do not apply. So rest assured because she worships on sunday, what would normally be considered as intolerance and religious presecution do not apply to what you ultimately did. Good job 'mate' you sir are a shinning example of what it means to be moral and upstanding in today's popular culture!
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Refusing to hire someone who refuses to comply with their responsibilities regarding the position is not discrimination, it's common sense.

If they'd refused to hire her specifically because she was a woman or christian, it would be discrimination. But in this case, the reason stated was failure in meeting the requirements. This job would mean working on Sundays and she knew that. Applying for it with that knowledge in mind and demanding special treatment is just silly.
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(June 10, 2015 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote:
(June 10, 2015 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: So we were interviewing for some new cleaning posts which came up at work and I got roped into assisting with them (why an accountant is on a panel for cleaners I don't know, but whatever, was kind of fun I guess) and we had a really sweet woman come in who gave a good account of herself and her experience.

We got down to the details of the role, which included every month working a Saturday or a Sunday with a day off in the week or time in lieu. She flat out refused to work the Sunday citing her religious observance as the reason why: "I have to observe my religion which I'm very passionate about, so I cannot work Sunday's under any circumstances."

This put the cleaning manager under quite some strain as we need cleaners to fill these posts (there is actually a shortage of good cleaners in our local job market apparently), but this was causing bother as we have several other cleaners who'd love to be exempt From working Sunday's but who have also been told they must work.

I thought it was so cheeky of her to request this, especially as the job description clearly stated the working hours. I lobbied the manager to refuse her request as exemptions from work for religious observance is not an acceptable excuse to shirk your responsibilities, and he agreed. We didn't hire her.

Don't worry your not only still 'moral' you now can be considered a 'hero' for your stance of this woman's religious beliefs. I know why you feel weird about what your did. You feel hypocrisy creeping up because your actions were by definition intolerant and considered religious persecution. However If executed against a Christian or against Christianity in general. The law of general hypocrisy do not apply. So rest assured because she worships on sunday, what would normally be considered as intolerance and religious presecution do not apply to what you ultimately did. Good job 'mate' you sir are a shinning example of what it means to be moral and upstanding in today's popular culture!
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(June 10, 2015 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote:
(June 10, 2015 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: So we were interviewing for some new cleaning posts which came up at work and I got roped into assisting with them (why an accountant is on a panel for cleaners I don't know, but whatever, was kind of fun I guess) and we had a really sweet woman come in who gave a good account of herself and her experience.

We got down to the details of the role, which included every month working a Saturday or a Sunday with a day off in the week or time in lieu. She flat out refused to work the Sunday citing her religious observance as the reason why: "I have to observe my religion which I'm very passionate about, so I cannot work Sunday's under any circumstances."

This put the cleaning manager under quite some strain as we need cleaners to fill these posts (there is actually a shortage of good cleaners in our local job market apparently), but this was causing bother as we have several other cleaners who'd love to be exempt From working Sunday's but who have also been told they must work.

I thought it was so cheeky of her to request this, especially as the job description clearly stated the working hours. I lobbied the manager to refuse her request as exemptions from work for religious observance is not an acceptable excuse to shirk your responsibilities, and he agreed. We didn't hire her.

Don't worry your not only still 'moral' you now can be considered a 'hero' for your stance of this woman's religious beliefs. I know why you feel weird about what your did. You feel hypocrisy creeping up because your actions were by definition intolerant and considered religious persecution. However If executed against a Christian or against Christianity in general. The law of general hypocrisy do not apply. So rest assured because she worships on sunday, what would normally be considered as intolerance and religious presecution do not apply to what you ultimately did. Good job 'mate' you sir are a shinning example of what it means to be moral and upstanding in today's popular culture!

Just a note to the general membership, the above has no basis in reality and is a gross and repugnant misrepresentation of the facts as stated in the OP.

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Umm considering the weird and twisted legal system and the religious majority(who also claim to be the minority as needed), she would have a pretty good chance of suing and winning against your company.

I have no problem with people worshipping or practicing whatever their beliefs might be as long as they don't force those on others including me.
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