What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

When the staff post in their relevant colours, we're posting as staff.

When we post any other time, we post as members. If this is difficult to understand, Randy, I'm not sure what else can be done. But to clarify, here I am posting as a normal member.

There is no added value whatsoever in us having two accounts, or remaining 'anonymous' (why would we want to do that?).

The advantage in posting as a "regular user" would be that you could argue all you want with another member without that other person knowing that you are a mod. And if that person thought that you, as a regular user, were being abusive or disrespectful, he or she could ignore you. Mods should be neutral...simply applying the rules equally to theist and atheist alike. Unfortunately this is not the way things work here. Atheists can break the trolling rule (you know, the one that says that deliberately provocative posts will not be tolerated), and mods are among the worst offenders of this rule.

For example, I would quickly ignore three or four mods immediately if I could - not because I do not want to obey the rules, but because they use foul language, troll, and generally try to disrupt the threads. Sad, but true. Unfortunately, I have to put up with their non-mod crap because I cannot ignore them. So, I just skim the avatars and breeze past those I'm not really interested in chatting with.

This is a really simple fix...but one that will not be implemented because no one gets the fact that the current system is anything but impartial.

I see others have posted a response so I don't need to say anything further.

[Cyberman]

I will, because somehow I missed this part:

Atheists can break the trolling rule (you know, the one that says that deliberately provocative posts will not be tolerated), and mods are among the worst offenders of this rule.

First of all - bullshit, but I quite understand you're not especially big on the whole evidence thing. Secondly, nobody is above the Rules; Staff included. Staff cannot be everywhere, all the time. We act on reports received. We don't receive reports, we can't act. This sort of in-thread accusation does nothing other than piss people off. See, you don't need to use naughty words to troll.

[Ravenshire]

Well, I'd vote for you, Stim, and if you wrote a book I'd read it, so....

I've updated my avatar in honour of my new dual identity:

So, you'll be vampire hunting in what little spare time the forums allow you then?

[KevinM1]

I propose an addition to the forum lexicon -

Pull(ing/ed) a Huggy: to be a demonstratively whiny twat when it comes to how forum rules are enforced in the middle of a thread. Example:

Randy, stop pulling a Huggy.

[Randy Carson]

Oh...I've started three threads using an evidential approach...

The approach doesn't matter, if you where a true evidential apologist you would be arguing gods existence based on evidence that a believer and a non believer both agree on, so all presupposition is removed. What your doing is presenting stuff that you think is "evidence" for a god you already presuppose exists.

Oh...I've started three threads using an evidential approach...

.....and giving ZERO evidence.

Incorrectomundo, gentlemen.

In the "Minimal Fact Approach" thread, I am arguing for the resurrection of Jesus on the basis of four facts which the overwhelming majority of ALL NT scholars (believers and skeptics alike) accept as highly probable. The fifth fact is accepted by a simple majority.

That's kinda the whole point. These are not facts with which you may take issue easily as they are most generally conceded as undisputed.

See ya there.

[Randy Carson]

In your browser, you have two windows open.

In the first window, you are logged in as a regular user. Cuss at me all you want.

In the second window, you are logged in as a mod. Correct me all you want.

Easy peasy.

Doesn't work. Cookies are shared for all windows and tabs of the browser.
Unless we were to keep two different browsers open, one for each account... but that would be hell for some of us.

I find no need for such mechanism, just so a few users could not see what I post as a normal user. It's far easier for those few users to use their bio-ignore function.

I often have two windows open when working in this forum, poca, so that I may monitor multiple threads OR refer from one thread to another.

However, I don't have two accounts so I don't know how that might affect things.

That said, we can and should let this matter drop.

[Randy Carson]

Well, I'd vote for you, Stim, and if you wrote a book I'd read it, so....

I've updated my avatar in honour of my new dual identity:

Honest Abe. I hope this inspires you to great integrity in your postings.

[Cyberman]

So, you'll be vampire hunting in what little spare time the forums allow you then?

I'll be hunting vampires by using my enormous vocabulary to make them realise the ridiculousness and irrelevance of their existence. Then I'll have a glass of scotch while wearing a tall black hat.

[Cyberman]

Honest Abe. I hope this inspires you to great integrity in your postings.

You misspelled "greater" there.

[Randy Carson]

I will, because somehow I missed this part:

Atheists can break the trolling rule (you know, the one that says that deliberately provocative posts will not be tolerated), and mods are among the worst offenders of this rule.

First of all - bullshit, but I quite understand you're not especially big on the whole evidence thing. Secondly, nobody is above the Rules; Staff included. Staff cannot be everywhere, all the time. We act on reports received. We don't receive reports, we can't act. This sort of in-thread accusation does nothing other than piss people off[emphasis added]. See, you don't need to use naughty words to troll.

Well, as you are fond of pointing out, this is ironic. You, and or other mods, may recall my early attempts at pointing out just how often you were violating the "deliberately provocative" aspect of the trolling rule.

Or have you forgotten? (I can pull a huggy on you and re-post that whole exchange if you like.)