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My experience in the catholic church
#11
RE: My experience in the catholic church
I guess I should count myself lucky. I got fed similar stuff (although only for kindergarten plus maybe four years of catechism once or twice a week after school) but it just didn't resonate with me. I can't explain it. I was certainly not consciously using critical thinking at that age. Some of us seem to have been lucky enough to have been born with a hard-wired bullshit detector. I remember my one pervading thought through the whole thing was puzzlement. Why were they feeding us this nonsense? I just didn't get it.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#12
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(June 25, 2015 at 3:05 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I guess I should count myself lucky. I got fed similar stuff (although only for kindergarten plus maybe four years of catechism once or twice a week after school) but it just didn't resonate with me. I can't explain it. I was certainly not consciously using critical thinking at that age. Some of us seem to have been lucky enough to have been born with a hard-wired bullshit detector. I remember my one pervading thought through the whole thing was puzzlement. Why were they feeding us this nonsense? I just didn't get it.

I was an atheist through most of this. It had an effect on me emotionally, mostly. But eventually my brain broke down and I started believing too.
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#13
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I was raised Catholic too but it was more of a "softly, softly" Catholic experience for me, still utter bullshit but quite watered-down on the Hell threats. I'm sorry you went through all that.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you from? I've always put down my experience in "softer" Catholicism to being in the UK where it isn't the dominant religion, are you from somewhere where Catholicism is very dominant?
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#14
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It truly takes being on the outside of this to see the harm they cause. They think they're doing a good thing. *shudder*

I'm truly sorry you guys had to go through that. A shared traumatic experience can lead to good understanding and help in overcoming, though. If there's a silver lining and all.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#15
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This is pretty grim reading, seems to be completely at odds with how Catholic_lady describes her church though. Strange that.
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#16
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(June 25, 2015 at 10:58 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: This is pretty grim reading, seems to be completely at odds with how Catholic_lady describes her church though. Strange that.

Probably more accurate, though.

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#17
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Reminds me of Frank McCourt's Angela's Ashes.

My second favorite book of all time.

"The master says it’s a glorious thing to die for the Faith and Dad says it’s a glorious thing to die for Ireland and I wonder if there’s anyone in the world who would like us to live."
~Frank McCourt Angela's Ashes
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#18
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Some Irish Catholics amuse me, it seems to be all about keeping up appearances of following the faith.

My grandparents (Maltese grandfather, Irish grandmother) accidently let it slip to my Dad, then aged 26, that it was their 25th wedding anniversary. They had kept it a secret up until that point hehe.

Then they turned around and pressured my aunt into marriage after she got pregnant, class act.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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#19
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(June 25, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Some Irish Catholics amuse me, it seems to be all about keeping up appearances of following the faith.

My grandparents (Maltese grandfather, Irish grandmother) accidently let it slip to my Dad, then aged 26, that it was their 25th wedding anniversary. They had kept it a secret up until that point hehe.

Then they turned around and pressured my aunt into marriage after she got pregnant, class act.

Wow; it's a really good thing she didn't end up in the Magdalene Laundries. She really dodged a bullet!
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#20
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This was all happening in the UK by this point so there weren't any real consequences. However, my Nan herself was born out of wedlock, was taken off her mother, and grew up in a convent until she was eventually adopted. Never found her real mother until she was an adult, it's really sad. Makes me wonder how she is still so Catholic to this day with how fucked over her life has been by it.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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