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MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
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 (July 30, 2015 at 11:40 am)Anima Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 10:05 am)Ace Wrote: Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I thank you but no, the worst parts about me are when I'm like my dad. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (July 30, 2015 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 11:40 am)Anima Wrote: Must be a good thing since he raised such a fine individual Hmm. Said to hear of a bad connection that you two have. For the sake that he is your father, I hope whatever the issue is you two can fix it some day. 
(July 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Ace Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I thank you but no, the worst parts about me are when I'm like my dad. Oh he's not terrible, just a product of the fifties with all that implies. Remember that was the era of mincing gays and casual racism and he hasn't moved on. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
Oh, ok got you.
Hmm? Would I get along with you dad? Will I would never tell him that he can not speak his mind. But he might stop me onces he see's me. Cuz I am not actually the light color looking. Know what I mean. What part of the country is he from? (July 30, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Ace Wrote: Oh, ok got you. Oh he's had a lot of coloured friends just would constantly mentioned it. It's the old "He likes being called Sambo" type of situation where they just grinned and bore it if you know what I mean. He is an equal opportunities bigot. His Welsh friends are all Jock and his welsh friends are Taff so at least he spreads the pain. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 31, 2015 at 10:20 am
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Your Dad reminds me quite a lot of my Dad
Mine was such a well educated and intelligent man on most things, but for some reason he really seemed to struggle grasping some basic shit about racism, sexuality, why religion is so bad, womens' rights. He definitely wasn't new man to say the least. It did bother me sometimes, especially when he said things about gay people. Two of his finest quotes about gays; "Well poofs choose to be poofs" *In response to a news report about lesbian rights* "I don't see what rights I have that lesbians don't." I love him but it was pointless trying to discuss anything with him, he wouldn't hear it. Anything that wasn't in his comfortable little conservative bubble was "political correctness", even if what you said wasn't particularly radical or revolutionary. It was the fact that he didn't understand stuff about racism that got me most, especially considering he could have easily and probably was considered "brown" or "mixed race" by some people.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane" - sarcasm_only
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie (July 31, 2015 at 3:29 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Ace Wrote: Oh, ok got you. Sorry I did not get back to you on this and the other thread. But I am stooping from talking hear because some one talked bad about mentally ill people and I am one. My brother said I should. I did enjoy the little take we had. Thank you. (August 4, 2015 at 11:47 am)Ace Wrote:(July 31, 2015 at 3:29 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Oh he's had a lot of coloured friends just would constantly mentioned it. It's the old "He likes being called Sambo" type of situation where they just grinned and bore it if you know what I mean. No worries You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (July 27, 2015 at 5:49 pm)Anima Wrote: Really?? I do not even know why you wasted your time with a recent Gallup poll. The trend of opinion now is not the trend of opinion for all time. If that were the case the polls never would have changed in their favor. You are a bright individual Cato so I do not know why you wasted time with such a pointless statement. His point was that even if rights were subject to approval by popular majorities (and they're not), gay marriage would have a solid majority of approval by the American public. (July 29, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Ace Wrote: Anyone wishing to deny equality to an entire group of people based only on a single characteristic that is not illegal qualifies as a bigot to me. It has nothing to do with who agrees with whom, and everything to do with whether or not one would deny groups of people equal treatment. RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
August 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2015 at 12:41 pm by Ace.)
(August 5, 2015 at 11:12 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: [quote='Ace' pid='1008243' dateline='1438186238'] (August 5, 2015 at 11:12 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Anyone wishing to deny equality to an entire group of people based only on a single characteristic . . .that is not illegal qualifies as a bigot to me. Very, intersecting that you made this characteristic distinction because I agree with you in that distinctions should not be base on a SINGLE CHARACTERISTIC. Many on this board have argued that anything that a consensual adult does should be granted the right to do. This has been used to argued the acceptances of both polygamy and adult insist (which is illegal) But it can be argued that even their argument only relies on the single issue of a consensual adult that is to be the factor in deciding. (August 5, 2015 at 11:12 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: It has nothing to do with who agrees with whom, and everything to do with whether or not one would deny groups of people equal treatment. True, and I am not deny any one any equal treatment, agree with or not. More to the point, which many seem to not be recognizing, it is the state (government) not any individual citizens who can decided the rights people have and take away (and they have legally) the rights of people. No person has such a power no matter what their own ideas are. Also I have not advocated that anyone rights should be taken away or the unequal treatment of anyone. All I said is that if I don't not agree with same sex, that is my own right to do so, free from any form of prosecution of body or character. |
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That is a good question; am I only a bigot when I don't agree with you? Do I have to always agree with you to not be a bigot? . . . Can I ever say no? . . .If so, then how is that not what you accuse the religious of doing, "you can't force your own beliefs (ideas or views) on other people?