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Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
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RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Cato Wrote: That's an abrupt stop. Hope he/she didn't have a heart attack mid sentence.

I do.
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#22
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
The point is that abortion in any form other than a conclusion to physical rape is wrong. We should be accountable for our own actions.
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#23
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
Yes I d not believe devleopemental delay is part of This discussion. What level of mental ability defines a life worth saving? Who are you to decide for some one else. I have patients who are nearly locked in (can communicate with blinking ) but do not want to die and patients with hemiplegia who have killed themselves so each person values are different and I would be hard pressed to determine for some one else what is a life with living so as I said earlier that is a DIFFERENT debate. My question does not and should not address it. It is simply is withholding medical care to human fetus moral if there is a known possibility of survival in that situation.
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#24
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The point is that abortion in any form other than a conclusion to physical rape is wrong. We should be accountable for our own actions.

Ectopia cordis?
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#25
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:42 pm)answer-is-42 Wrote: Who are you to decide for some one else.
Says the person wanting to make a decision for the mother.
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#26
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
Not really.
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#27
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Cato Wrote:
(July 3, 2015 at 6:36 pm)answer-is-42 Wrote: @snakeoilwarrior
First of all does that mean if a man has a heart attack and

That's an abrupt stop. Hope he/she didn't have a heart attack mid sentence.

ROFLOL


Seems more like a janitor who sweeps out the doctor's lunch room in a clinic.  Maybe someone walked in?
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#28
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The point is that abortion in any form other than a conclusion to physical rape is wrong. We should be accountable for our own actions.

What fucking business is it of yours if some woman who you have never met has or does not have a kid? 

Who the fuck do you think you are?
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#29
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Not really.

You seriously wouldn't allow an abortion for ectopia cordis? Or were you replying to something else? Difficult to tell.
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#30
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 4:55 pm)answer-is-42 Wrote: Let me begin by stating that I am not a theist (the most common as-homin attack I get when opposing abortion on secular grounds is that I am secretly a theist again I am not).
Most people oppose abortion based in the right to bodily autonomy. Regardless of your beliefs on that, once the fetus is out of the maternal womb, bodily autonomy no longer applies. 20 weeks has arbitrairly been considered the limit of viability, however infants born at 21 weeks have clearly survived and case reports of younger (less developed) infants surviving are also available. Additionally not all abortions occur before 20 weeks.
Therefore my moral question is why is resuscitation and medical support with held from an aborted fetus if there is a chance of survival? We do not allow this in any other situations. certainly we would not allow a parent to stop feeding or withhold medical care from a child because they simply do not want the child. It is actually considered child abuse even if they want the child and are following their misguided religious convictions
this is not a financial question so I would ask that cost not be an arguement. We use more expensive therapies for similar success rates all the time. This is a moral and philosophical question

Our society has decided that a woman's right to control her own body takes precedence over any potential right the fetus might have.

As to CPR, it isn't performed because it doesn't assist in terminating the pregnancy, which is, after all, the goal of the operation.

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