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Problems with third wave feminism
#1
Problems with third wave feminism
Just this:
http://youtu.be/28tim3xgUj8
I couldn't have put any of this better myself!
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#2
RE: Problems with third wave feminism
According to the Oxford dictionary, feminism is

Quote:The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Quote:the belief and aim that women should have the same rights and opportunities as men; the struggle to achieve this aim

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/pt/def...s/feminism

The critique in the video is only applicable to intersectional feminism, but you don't need to support anything else aside from gender equality to be considered a feminist. My girlfriend is a feminist and she is a bit racist, specially against black and Chinese people - That doesn't stop her from being a feminist and supporting women's rights. It is possible to be a feminist and have almost any political orientation or ideology, and to be pro or against almost any social, political, cultural and economic issue. I'm not saying I agree with racist feminism, but etymologically it's not impossible to be both.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Problems with third wave feminism
(July 22, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Dystopia Wrote: According to the Oxford dictionary, feminism is

Quote:The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Quote:the belief and aim that women should have the same rights and opportunities as men; the struggle to achieve this aim

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/pt/def...s/feminism

The critique in the video is only applicable to intersectional feminism, but you don't need to support anything else aside from gender equality to be considered a feminist. My girlfriend is a feminist and she is a bit racist, specially against black and Chinese people - That doesn't stop her from being a feminist and supporting women's rights. It is possible to be a feminist and have almost any political orientation or ideology, and to be pro or against almost any social, political, cultural and economic issue. I'm not saying I agree with racist feminism, but etymologically it's not impossible to be both.
all I'm saying is that a lot of feminist drive a wedge between themselves and their allies and would be members. It's not helping and the only ones dividing the movement is them. Btw why are you dating someone you know is racist?!
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RE: Problems with third wave feminism
Because unlike the US my society is composed primarily and overwhelmingly by native (you can call them "white") people and minorities are seen as "immigrants" and never truly considered national citizens, regardless of how hard you try - So it's extremely hard to find someone who isn't a bit racist.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Problems with third wave feminism
(July 22, 2015 at 6:37 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Because unlike the US my society is composed primarily and overwhelmingly by native (you can call them "white") people and minorities are seen as "immigrants" and never truly considered national citizens, regardless of how hard you try - So it's extremely hard to find someone who isn't a bit racist.
I guess I'll stay the heck away from wherever you are.
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#6
RE: Problems with third wave feminism
Oh well, we don't have police cases of cops shooting black people Tongue - Most of Europe has the same problem - But I can't really talk about statistics because in some countries it is illegal to collect census based on race. you'll find out that despite the vision that Europeans are so tolerant racial diversity and marginalization are, in some ways, worse than in America because the majority of the population is still native-looking and only recently have we accepted more immigrants, so unlike America that always had black people that descend from slaves, non-natives only started entering Europe and become visible recently (with exceptions) and this has lead to adverse reactions like the rise of far-right parties that support Hitler and hate jews.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Problems with third wave feminism
(July 22, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Oh well, we don't have police cases of cops shooting black people Tongue - Most of Europe has the same problem - But I can't really talk about statistics because in some countries it is illegal to collect census based on race. you'll find out that despite the vision that Europeans are so tolerant racial diversity and marginalization are, in some ways, worse than in America because the majority of the population is still native-looking and only recently have we accepted more immigrants, so unlike America that always had black people that descend from slaves, non-natives only started entering Europe and become visible recently (with exceptions) and this has lead to adverse reactions like the rise of far-right parties that support Hitler and hate jews.

Which is why I'd rather the devil I know…
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#8
RE: Problems with third wave feminism
Indeed - Back to the topic - I think it is desirable to be a feminist and pro-racial equality, but semantically one doesn't stop being a feminist just because one's a racist - It just means you support women's rights only for some women.
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#9
RE: Problems with third wave feminism
We don't have any racists in Australia.
Fly over and see for yourself.
Don't come by boat though.
We don't like foreign boats.
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RE: Problems with third wave feminism
(July 22, 2015 at 6:50 pm)Little lunch Wrote: We don't have any racists in Australia.
Fly over and see for yourself.
Don't come by boat though.
We don't like foreign boats.
I'm scared of boats. Hey have you ever been to Coober Peady?
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