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Take me out to dinner and a movie
#11
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
The employers in NC can fire a worker for any reason. They don't have to tell the employee why they were fired. For reasons I do not understand, the same people in my state who vote for such stupid laws also complain about them.

Lots of people work extra hours unpaid or let their boss take advantage of them because they have no job security.  It actually does not make business sense to have your workers end up hating their job but the southern US doesn't seem to make much sense.

Edited to add:

If you wondered how politicians and corporations got these laws passed, the answer is unions. Unions are viewed very negatively in many areas in the south. The Right to Work laws were supposed to be about giving employees the right to not join a union. What happened was that employers gained the right to fire for any reason other than race, gender etc. Because they don't have to provide a reason for the firing, there is no way to tell if they did fire someone over their race.

An example of the anti union sentiment

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/19...nions-away


Quote:But even if it was 200,000 jobs, that would apparently not be enough for Watson—who ended up abstaining from a vote on the tax incentives—to be willing to risk unions gaining strength in the state. That is a lot of hatred of the idea of workers joining together to bargain for better wages and working conditions. This better-unemployment-than-unions position doesn't make Watson unique among elected Republicans, though. In 2014, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley took a similar position, saying that "We discourage any companies that have unions from wanting to come to South Carolina because we don’t want to take the water."

It really is almost like they think unions might be contagious. Like South Carolina or Tennessee workers in non-union workplaces might look at the union workers at Volkswagen or wherever and think "I want that" and go out and try to make it happen. Which they might! And these Republicans are clear that they would prefer higher unemployment among their constituents than having that possibility.
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#12
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
As to the OP, that's part of the working world. Staying late, working 7 days a week sometimes, working a man or more down. You want to be rewarded (other than your pay, overtime pay) for these occasional occurrences? Grow up.

If it continually happens then you might have an issue.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#13
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
(July 30, 2015 at 3:16 am)Brian37 Wrote: Technically bullshit.

The loophole is that, especially in right to work states, if they don't like your objections they can make unrelated excuses to for you and in most cases it is he said she said.

Technically does not mean owners don't work around it.

I actually agree with Brian on this one. The reality is, most employees are basically a bitch to the employer. You can say you won't work late because you don't have to. Sure. See how far that gets you in the long run.
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#14
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
Coming back to the OP, I have jobbed at a software company when I was in school, and it happened a few times a year that the entire team had to spend a weekend at the office (and working late, too) finishing a release for a big customer. So far I had no problem with that. But the morale in the team really went downhill during that time - and it would have been crazy easy to remedy. Imagine the boss going through the office in the afternoon and say - ok, first of all, great that you are all here working for this goal. Second of all, free Pizza, who wants which topping?

So simple, yet neither did occur to them, and everyone was pissed.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#15
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
Most of my working career (for others) I was never financially secure enough to ever turn down OT and holiday work.  (Might have had something to do with my eventually becoming a 12 Stepper, LOL,   Tongue )

Self employed these days, I highly recommend it to every one, being a wage slave (and a doper) was a lot like work . .
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#16
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
In my state, almost all employment is at "employer's will and pleasure" as if you were in a temp position forever. Sure they can't make you stay late to work here, but they can fire you for blinking tomorrow.
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#17
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
Once, and only once, the owner called me in to the office for a recommendation on whether or not to fire someone.

I weighed in with my opinion 'Pete' needed to go. The few times he had showed up to work in the previous week he was blotto, couldn't do the work, left early and was disruptive.

And that was it for 'Pete'.

I quit some months later when I realized the owner was an alcoholic. The self-realization I was one too was still a few years in the future . . .

I have been fired once (boy did they have cause*), laid off once, and have quit twice. I don't think I can fuck up what I'm doing now.


*long story, there was some management pathology too
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#18
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
Spoken like tea party Libertarians. I posted this in the humor section and some here can't take a joke.
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#19
RE: Take me out to dinner and a movie
You're not fooling anyone.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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