Higher IQ's

[Neo-Scholastic]

In Listverse's smartest people in history, Swedenborg (Christian) is shown as #3, right behind Galileo (nominally Christian) and Geothe (Gnostic).

You know what your problem is? Taking references from the 13th, 17th and early 19th century. Time has moved on since then and so has knowledge.

I didn't know that truth had an expiration date.

[abaris]

I didn't know that truth had an expiration date.

Knowledge certainly has. Or would you like medical treatment according to the methods of Galen?

[Deepthunk]

I'm around the 140 range with my IQ.  I'm average.

I hate to tell you this but 100 is considered average on the most commonly used scales.

[Neo-Scholastic]

My scale goes to 11.

[Cephus]

Even if atheists were as a whole more intelligent that theists that would not make them more wise.

Nor less wise.  Wisdom is subjective, I don't know how you'd decide who was more or less wise anyhow.

[Cephus]

In Listverse's smartest people in history, Swedenborg (Christian) is shown as #3, right behind Galileo (nominally Christian) and Geothe (Gnostic).

http://listverse.com/2007/10/06/top-10-geniuses/

I do not consider listverse authoritative by any means but it is at least an independent assessment.

All of them lived before the creation of the I.Q. test in 1912.  Try again.

[Jenny A]

Then you should have dozens of citations to them.  Ante up.

I've got a list of studies dating back to the 1930s at home, I'll have to look it up, but you can always check out the University of Rochester meta-study that looks at 63 different studies done and comes to that conclusion.  Anted up.

http://psr.sagepub.com/content/early/201...8313497266

You don't have 63, but you do have an average of 63.  I wish we could see more in your link than just the abstract so we might know if it meant anything.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to believe that intelligence was the deciding factor and I'm atheist because I'm a genius, or at least above average.  But I don't believe it.  Skepticism and intelligent are not the same thing.  And intelligence can be used to rationalize all sorts of beliefs.

[Cephus]

The existence of a god is a scientific claim, not a philosophical one.

That's one of the most ignorant and yet honest things I have ever heard on AF. The methodology of science is specifically tailored to the study of the natural world.

Are you saying that God isn't real?  Anything that exists in the real world is open to scientific exploration.  Either God is imaginary, at which point he's philosophical, or he's objectively real, at which point science can search for him.

You lose either way.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Wisdom is subjective, I don't know how you'd decide who was more or less wise anyhow.

And intelligence isn't? IQ tests generally test for things like abstract and numerical pattern recognition. Who decided that those particular skills are what constitute intelligence or even relevant to overall effective everyday thinking?

[Pyrrho]

I've got a list of studies dating back to the 1930s at home, I'll have to look it up, but you can always check out the University of Rochester meta-study that looks at 63 different studies done and comes to that conclusion.  Anted up.

http://psr.sagepub.com/content/early/201...8313497266

You don't have 63, but you do have an average of 63.  I wish we could see more in your link than just the abstract so we might know if it meant anything.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to believe that intelligence was the deciding factor and I'm atheist because I'm a genius, or at least above average.  But I don't believe it.  Skepticism and intelligent are not the same thing.  And intelligence can be used to rationalize all sorts of beliefs.

The whole question does not matter.  That deals with averages, not individual intelligence.  You cannot know someone's beliefs about whether there is a god or not based solely on IQ score.  You can make a guess, based on averages, but it is still just a guess and you will be wrong with some frequency.