Exposing Christianity

[abaris]

But you know that Mel Gibson also is not proponent of Vatican and considers it long ago as being overrun with Jews and communists and even considers John Paul II as an Antichrist.

Actually, Gibson is a pretty controversial figure. He's made derogatory comments about gays in an interview and hosted an event for gay filmmakers a few years later. He's described as being ultra conservative and commended Michael Moore on Fahrenheit 9/11. And of course, he rambled on jews and "niggers" in recorded conversations and in threats against his ex wife.

Hard to say how the real Gibson ticks. Even more so since he's an alcoholic and seems to suffer from all kinds of mental problems.

[Randy Carson]

Yes, unfortunately I saw the movie and since it's blessed by Pope it's not infrequent on TV. And certainly after the movie came out almost everybody that uses their brain at least a bit recognized it was antisemitic and Mel Gibson as a very psychotic person, but of course Pope didn't. It is also known that Mel's father, Hutton, is a Holocaust-denier.

But you know that Mel Gibson also is not proponent of Vatican and considers it long ago as being overrun with Jews and communists and even considers John Paul II as an Antichrist.

If you take a few moments to read the critical reviews that were published before and after the film was released, you will learn that opinions about anti-semitism in the film were mixed - even among Jews.

[Fake Messiah]

If you take a few moments to read the critical reviews that were published before and after the film was released, you will learn that opinions about antisemitism in the film were mixed - even among Jews.

So what? It doesn't mean that if you find some Jewish person writing review of "Mein Kampf" saying it's not antisemitic it still doesn't make it not antisemitic. Just as with Pope Pius XII to which I will return later in this post.
It is interesting about Mel Gibson how he first berated Jews and gays and people didn't pay that much attention until he started saying racist things about black people what ended his career. The unfortunate wait seems because it's not so far of a viewpoint of many serious unliberal Christians that see evolution as a Masonic-Jewish ploy and lie to destroy Christianity and bring in the Antichrist that's behind it, a notion which is deeply rooted in Christianity and especially Catholicism.

Just remember since the destabilizing aftershocks from the French Revolution had led to the easing of harsh, discriminatory laws against Jews in Western Europe. It was then that Mayer Amschel, the Rothschild family patriarch, had walked out of the Frankfurt ghetto with his five sons and established a fledgling bank. Little wonder the Rothschilds sparked envy. By the time Pope Gregory asked for a loan they had created the world’s biggest bank, ten times larger than their closest rival. Rothschilds, meanwhile, were criticized by some Jewish leaders who felt as though the family simply profited from the church without making any effort to change its harsh policies toward Jews. So the Rothschilds tried leveraging their influence to beseech the Holy See to improve conditions for the fifteen thousand Jews in the Papal States. They asked that the Pope cancel extra taxes levied solely on Jews, the prohibition on taking property from the ghetto, and the ban on working in professions, and that he abolish onerous evidentiary standards that put them at tremendous disadvantage in court cases. Pope Pius, that was in charge by then, sent a written assurance to the Rothschilds through the Papal Nuncio in Paris that he would help. Privately, he told some of his aides that he preferred martyrdom to acceding to the Rothschild requests. Pius ultimately made only a single concession: he tore down the walls and chained gates that ringed Rome’s notorious Jewish ghetto, the last in Europe set apart by a physical boundary. But it had no practical effect, as Jews were prohibited from moving anywhere else. When Carl Rothschild visited Rome four months later and complained that little had changed, Pius mollified the family by lifting a long-standing requirement that Jews attend proselytizing sermons every week on their Sabbath.
Pius bristled at the church’s dependency on the Rothschilds. So did prominent Catholic bankers, like the Belgian André Langrand-Dumonceau, who declared it “shameful” to borrow money from Jews. Church leaders believed Jewish financiers were Freemasons, part of a larger international effort to destabilize the Vatican and push a secular philosophy in which worship of money replaced that of God. Although Pope and everybody else in Vatican seem to worship money more then God for a long time now, they hardly need Jews or anyone else for that.

And why is Mel Gibson like that? Well he's probably a victim of a bad education by his father who is one of those total angry losers Catholics that hate everybody, so they start blaming whole world for the fact they're stupid and incompetent losers and Church is a perfict ground for them because it tells you it's OK to be stupid and uneducated and also provides you with whole barrage of "enemies" like Jews that have been kept in Ghettos since Christianity is a dominant religion in Europe.


Now back to that horrible psychopath Pope Pius XII

During WW2 SS officer Kurt Gerstein walked into the Berlin office of the Nuncio, Cesare Orsenigo, wanting to confess his firsthand account of the killing of eight hundred Jews at the death camp Belzec. Because a diesel engine that produced the gas kept malfunctioning, it had taken a torturous stop-and-start three hours to kill the naked victims, packed into four tiny rooms of a crude gas chamber. But Orsenigo’s personal assistant, a priest who was a secret Nazi Party member, intercepted him. Gerstein went next to Berlin’s auxiliary bishop, Otto Dibelius. That bishop sent the first-ever confirmations of the mass murder by an SS officer in both coded cables and diplomatic pouches to the Vatican. It was buried in Rome. Nothing was shared with other countries.
When Berlin’s Bishop Konrad von Preysing later tried mobilizing his fellow bishops to condemn the ongoing deportation of Jews and even warned they would be answerable before God for their silence, no one supported him. His colleagues argued that the deportation of non-Catholics was troubling but not their duty to address. They refused to tell German Catholics that it was a mortal sin to kill Jews. Preysing concluded that the moral deadlock could not be broken without the Pope’s forceful intervention. Pius did not get involved, allowing those who wanted to do nothing to prevail.
Soon after, an Italian priest, an abbot, and a Latvian archbishop passed along separate accounts of the murder of Jews in Poland and Latvia. The Polish government in exile released a report estimating that 700,000 Jews had been killed since the Nazi invasion and even cited the existence of gas vans at the Chelmno death camp.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt dispatched his personal envoy, Myron Taylor, to meet Pius and they met privately three times. The American envoy, the former head of U.S. Steel, was an adept negotiator. He knew it would not be easy to convince the Pontiff to take action. He had earlier failed to persuade him to excommunicate Hitler and Mussolini. The Pope averred that he felt as though he had spoken out enough about “the aggressions of war” and the “sufferings of civilians,” but complained that his “appeal was little heeded.”
Pope’s summer was consumed not by concerns about how to stop the civilian massacre but instead on a film he had commissioned about himself. Pastor Angelicus (Angelic Shepherd) was a narcissistic hour-long look at Pius’s life, from his birth to his reign at the Vatican. Part documentary, part reality show, it focused on the Pontiff’s daily routine. Among other scenes, Pius was filmed getting into his limousine as his driver dropped to his knees and crossed himself, greeting the Italian royal family, visiting a class of First Communion girls, and working late into the night in his grand office.

Not until the Allies approved a declaration condemning German-led genocide in Europe did finally fired up Pius to say something about the civilian slaughter. The Pope worried that if he did not, the Vatican might become irrelevant and not play any postwar peacemaking role. Pius hesitantly touched on the Holocaust in his 1942 Christmas radio address. In a five-thousand-word, twenty-six-page prepared statement, the Pope devoted several dozen words to it. He condemned “arbitrary attacks” and said that no nation had the right to “herd people around as if they were a lifeless thing.” Near the end, he talked about “hundreds of thousands, who without any fault of their own, sometimes only by reason of their nationality or race, re marked down for death or gradual extinction.” Pius never uttered the words “Jew” or “German” or “Nazi.” He had reduced the number of victims from the million cited in the report delivered from the Polish ambassador to “hundreds of thousands.”
The Allied envoys at the Vatican thought that Pius had squandered his chance to make a substantive difference.

A week after the Christmas talk, the Pope met with Myron Taylor’s assistant, chargé d’affaires Harold Tittmann. Pius declined to sign an Allied declaration expressly condemning the Nazi crimes. As 1943 began Bishop von Preysing informed Pius about more roundups and deportations of Berlin’s Jews and pleaded with the Pope to intervene. But Pius told Preysing he had said all he intended in his Christmas address, that it “was brief but it has been well understood.” All he could do now, he said, was to pray.

And there are many stories like that wher Pius XII just didn't give a fuck about the Jews but the most perverse one happened German troops marched into Rome September 10. SS Obersturmbannführer Herbert Kappler informed Rome’s Jewish community that unless it delivered 50 kilograms of gold, two hundred residents would be deported to concentration camps. Rome’s Jews started gathering the gold. The Chief Rabbi, Israel Zolli, asked Vatican to lend them some gold, but then the Jews managed to raise it by themselves.
Despite receiving the gold, the Nazis still decided to move against the Rome ghetto. The Pope became an eyewitness to the Holocaust: the Nazis rounded up 1,200 Jews. The operation was directed by Obersturmbannführer Kappler. Although the ghetto was about a mile from the Vatican, the Nazis transported the Jews along the outer perimeter of a piazza a mere 250 yards from Pius’s windows. The Nazis locked the Jews into the Italian Military College in Via della Lungara, only a few hundred yards from the Vatican. Pius said not a public word in support of Rome’s Jews.
On the day of the roundup Third Reich officials privately worried that the deportations could spark strong opposition from war-weary Italians who did not share the German fervor for eliminating Jews. If the Pope weighed in against the deportations, Nazi leaders in Berlin had discussed scrapping their plans. Not to mention from Vatican people that broke their neck saving Nazis after war providing them with fake documents.
The same day as the roundup, the Vatican appointed famous Nazi lover Alois Hudal, to continue any further talks to Nazis. The Nazis did not want to keep the Jews in Rome long. Just two days after they were detained, a train left packed with a thousand Jews. The next day the church formally thanked Hitler’s Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, for the German military’s respectful wartime behavior to the city-state!!! And the Vatican asked for more Nazi forces to keep Rome’s communists under control. Five days after the boxcars left Rome they came to Auschwitz and after the selection 149 men and 47 women have been admitted to the detention camp. The rest have been gassed. Only fifteen survived the war.

So there you go, the fucking Pius XII after the war wrote in his personal journal about which single day he believed would “be known in history as the most sorrowful for the Eternal City during the Second World War.” For Pius it was the Allied bombing raid that accidentally damaged the Basilica di San Lorenzo fuori le Mura. He did not mention anything about the roundup and deportation of Rome’s Jews.
Later on as it was evident that Germany will lose the war Pius knew it was only a matter of time before the Americans liberated the city. The Pontiff directed his Secretary of State to formally request of Osborne that “no Allied Negroes troops would be among the small number that might be garrisoned at Rome after the occupation.” Because Pius was convinced Negroes were prone to raping civilians!!