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HELL
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 (October 7, 2015 at 11:46 pm)dyresand Wrote: [...] Old people, playing instruments! The horror...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
Catholic Lady,
Nice to see you again. I lurk at TTA mostly. When I got my degree in religious studies, it was from Saint Leo University, so I am decently fluent in the catholic christian view. In fact, this was one of the stand out quotes I saved from one of my textbooks on hell...it explains it quite well actually and seems to be in line a bit with your perspective... Source is Reason, Faith and Tradition by Martin C. Albl, Chapter 7 page 188 – describing hell. "We begin with a reminder of limitations of our language. Since hell, according to Christian doctrine, is a supernatural reality, it can only be described in analogies. Holy Scripture teaches us the essence of hell in images. When it speaks of the fire of hell, it is not to be understood in a grossly realistic sense. The images of fire and pain were ways of expressing the essential Christian understanding of hell – that it is a separation from God. We may define heaven as simply being with God, and hell, in contrast, is simply being without God. It is thus an existence without goodness and without meaning." 
You, not a mythical god, are the author of your book of life, make it one worth reading..and living.
Fair enough. So basically the only way to have meaning in your life is to start believing in an invisible man in the sky and abandon science, critical thought and common sense.
The 2 are obviously mutually exclusive...
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  RE: HELL
October 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2015 at 9:59 pm by robvalue.)
Indeed.
The problem is justifying believing in one set of claims which have no evidence, but refusing to believe in other very similar claims, which also have no evidence. It amounts to picking randomly. But of course, the choice usually isn't random due to indoctrination/being submerged in a certain mythology/not understanding the problem with appeals to popularity. No one seems to have an amazing experience and attribute it to Odin, do they? But they would have, had they grown up with his mythology. Since they are basically hallucinating/imagining things, the brain will draw on what it is used to. Feel free to send me a private message.
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