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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:20 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 10:18 pm)Exian Wrote: It's in response to police brutality of black people.
And that's the problem I have with it.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:21 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 10:20 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Well aren't you clever? 
Not really, not like I invented the phrase
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:22 pm
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2015 at 10:23 pm by Exian.)
Right, because black people have done worse to black people. You said that already. But how does that solve the police brutality issue? How are the two issues related?
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm
I never offered a solution to the police brutality issue, I just said that there shouldn't be a focus on any race but all of them. The issue should be over police brutality and racism, not just how bad black people have it. And I didn't know that BLM was apparently formed to address police brutality specifically against blacks. I thought their name was a decent indicator of their cause. But that doesn't take away from the fact that while they are complaining about black people being killed by cops, more black people are being killed by each other. And that to focus on just the cops or incidents of apparent racism is missing the bigger picture.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:38 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 8:51 pm)Exian Wrote: "Black lives matter" has an implied "also". You're arguing against thin air with "all lives matter". Nobody disagrees with that.
Yeah, it just focuses on the part which seems to be controversial in the USA.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:46 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 10:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (September 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (bold mine)
Dude, their tag isn't #Blacklivesmatterandtheyaretheonlyoneswhosufferoraredeservingofattentionfortheirsuffering.
Then why not #AllLivesMatter? Why use the word black unless you were specifically implying that they need to focus on blacks over anyone else? I just know I'm going to regret this but, I'm certain it's to be interpreted as Black Lives Matter, too....You know,
in addition to other people's lives.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:51 pm
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(September 1, 2015 at 10:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (September 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (bold mine)
Dude, their tag isn't #Blacklivesmatterandtheyaretheonlyoneswhosufferoraredeservingofattentionfortheirsuffering.
Then why not #AllLivesMatter? Why use the word black unless you were specifically implying that they need to focus on blacks over anyone else?
I think it is because blacks are treated less humanely -especially by those employed to keep the peace- way too often simply because they are black. There may be other characteristics which also get you treated less humanely. Like being a skin head or being poor. But of the things you can't choose to change, there is nothing which lowers your chances of humane treatment more than being black. This is obvious.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 10:52 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 10:20 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (September 1, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Well aren't you clever?
Apparently not very.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 11:07 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Not sure if anyone has done a thread on this yet but if they have I apologise, I just wanted to share my opinion on this.
The 'black lives matter' campaign is an absolute joke. This group of people often protest when black people are killed, for whatever reason that may be.
However, based on their actions, I don't think they truly believe that black lives matter. Black lives only seem to matter when it is a white person killing a black person. Or better yet, a white cop, killing a black criminal. It is only with this scenario that they seem to become outraged and speak out or in some cases protest and riot. It doesn't matter to them when a little black girl gets shot while doing her homework.... because it wasn't a white guy. The problem, I believe, lies with race baiters who teach these people that they are victims and oppressed and to blame everything on the white man and take no personal responsibility. You see it all too often on the news, some black guy killed by police after shooting at them and then their mother or their sister will show up and blame everyone else but the 'victim'.
The truth is that there is far more black on black crime than there is white on black crime. And more black on white crime. But these people either are completely ignorant of this or simply don't care, and I don't know which is worse. #Blacklivesmatter can go fuck themselves. All lives matter.
You make a valid point. Yes, of course black lives matter. But they should always matter. There seem to be people out there who only get upset about a black life when it's taken away by a white cop.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 1, 2015 at 11:12 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You make a valid point. Yes, of course black lives matter. But they should always matter. There seem to be people out there who only get upset about a black life when it's taken away by a white cop.
Why do you specify "white" cop? This issue is one about racist cops.
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