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What good is atheism?
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RE: What good is atheism?
Does not believing in unicorns benefit anyone? Same deal.
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#22
RE: What good is atheism?
Not believing in stuff that almost certainly isn't true is a benefit. You make better decisions. The more bollocks stuff you believe, the more like you are to make dumb decisions which harm you and those around you.
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#23
RE: What good is atheism?
If you give them Morpheus they might put you back in the matrix.
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#24
RE: What good is atheism?
(September 15, 2015 at 7:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: OP:  You come off as mind-bendingly selfish and self-absorbed.  All through your post runs the sentiment 'If atheism doesn't benefit me, then atheism has no value.'

Best of luck with that.

Boru

I have to admit, although I definitely do have some empathy and concern towards other innocent people such as my family, when you go and expect me to live most or my entire life severely crippled in a depressed state, that is when you have gone too far.  It would be no different than expecting a person lit on fire screaming for most or their entire lives to still live their lives, live for others, and help others and for you to have scorn and frown upon this person for no longer wanting to live such a life.  It is a completely daft expectation.  For that very reason, it is daftly insulting, dismissive, and nonunderstanding/noncompassionate towards this person's suffering.

For that reason, I have given up on humanity.  I have given up on being what they call "human," "nonselfish," and "non self-absorbed."  As a matter of fact, I deem those other people just mentioned to be "nonhuman," "noncompassionate," "insulting," and "dismissive."  You expect way too much out of me.  Something that cannot possibly be achieved by any normal human being.  I don't think anyone would ever manage to be content and accepting of living most or their entire lives severely depressed.  If there are such people, then very few can accomplish this.  I think they would be daft and would have a mental disorder in addition to their depression.

Since others are dismissive and insulting towards my suffering, then I would choose to return the favor.  If I had the choice right now, I would sacrifice all of my humanity since I now know what being "human" is according to these other people.  That being, a daft expectation that drives me to a psychotic rage since it is utterly dismissive and insulting.  Therefore, I would choose to sacrifice all of my humanity to be a transcended demon in a good mood or be someone like Hitler in a good mood and slaughter all these people.

My good moods are a sacred divine transcending energy that are absolutely life depending for me.  My own morality and humanity is nothing in comparison to it.  So that is the reason why I would choose to sacrifice all of my humanity in order to cure my depression/anhedonia and be in a good mood.
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RE: What good is atheism?
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#26
RE: What good is atheism?
(September 16, 2015 at 10:40 am)Minimalist Wrote: [Image: psych1.jpg]

No.  It is instead those people I mentioned who are insane.
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RE: What good is atheism?
(September 16, 2015 at 10:13 am)Detective L Ryuzaki Wrote:
(September 15, 2015 at 7:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: OP:  You come off as mind-bendingly selfish and self-absorbed.  All through your post runs the sentiment 'If atheism doesn't benefit me, then atheism has no value.'

Best of luck with that.

Boru


My good moods are a sacred divine transcending energy that are absolutely life depending for me.  

Sounds like mai Gwynnies. So what about the part where you're a multi-sock troll?
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#28
RE: What good is atheism?
I won't parrot what others have already pointed out, but I do want to point out one quick thing from your original OP. Your point #1 about how atheism leads to the advancement of science is just absurd. You do realize that the founders of Modern Science like Newton, Kepler and Galileo were all believers (Deists) right? As a matter of fact Newton wrote his Principa Mathematica so "others may believe". Other great minds like Einstein were also Deists. C.S. Lewis wrote that "men became scientific because they expected law in nature. They expected law in nature because they believed in a law giver."

These brilliant minds were not "religious" per se, but they were definitely not atheists.
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#29
RE: What good is atheism?
(September 16, 2015 at 10:13 am)Detective L Ryuzaki Wrote: So that is the reason why I would choose to sacrifice all of my humanity in order to cure my depression/anhedonia and be in a good mood.

This anhedonia condition is demonstrably false as you seem to expend much effort to annoy the piss out of us with your bullshit. Why would anyone go to these lengths for something that wasn't pleasurable to some extent? We also established in a previous incarnation that your anhedonia is completely self-diagnosed. You're self-absorbed infantilism is annoying. Grow up already.
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#30
RE: What good is atheism?
(September 16, 2015 at 11:27 am)lkingpinl Wrote: I won't parrot what others have already pointed out, but I do want to point out one quick thing from your original OP.  Your point #1 about how atheism leads to the advancement of science is just absurd.  You do realize that the founders of Modern Science like Newton, Kepler and Galileo were all believers (Deists) right?  As a matter of fact Newton wrote his Principa Mathematica so "others may believe".  Other great minds like Einstein were also Deists.  C.S. Lewis wrote that "men became scientific because they expected law in nature.  They expected law in nature because they believed in a law giver."

These brilliant minds were not "religious" per se, but they were definitely not atheists.

First off, I dunno why you'd quote C.S Lewis: he's not a scientist, just one of those very willing to make fallacious statements to favor his pet religion. What he says on this issue isn't important.

That said, "atheism leads to the advancement of science," is not the same thing as "you need to be an atheist to be a scientist." The former is true, while the latter is not: even theist scientists absolutely need to be atheists in their work. Why? Because one needs to be limited to only what can be detected and demonstrated when doing science. A scientist who'll seriously consider "hmm, maybe god intervened with this experiment because he wanted me to get the wrong result, so..." isn't going to get very far, and attempting to publish that result will result in quizzical looks at best, because if it's not demonstrable and replicable, it's not very good as an experiment.

Newton may have listed his beliefs as his motivation to do science, but for any of the good results he got he could never have listed his beliefs in practice. Each of those great believing scientists never allowed their faith to enter into their work, and that's sort of the point; attempting to inject religion as it is now into science is purely antithetical to the scientific endeavor.
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