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What is a god?

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What is a god?
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#21
RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Luke, you've brought up some good points which I will answer tomorrow as it is way past my bedtime and I'm quite pissed off at the minute. This is a good debate. I'll recharge my batteries and be back tomorrow evening. I'll be lounging in bed most of the day -it's my birthday today Smile
Talk to you tomorrow. Night Night....Big Grin
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility"

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#22
RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:44 pm
(December 6, 2008 at 8:35 pm)LukeMC Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 8:19 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Maybe purpose is like the laws. The laws are fixed, they have to be a certain way. Life which is dependant on these laws, gives rise to purpose, they are mutally exclusive??

Okay, life gives these laws a purpose (upholding life), but what purpose does life have? Thes laws don't add anything to the purpose of a human, they just make it possible for a human to survive. Where is the purpose coming from for us?

Quote:Pain, suffering, people having different ideas about purposes or what they should do... This being or force 'includes' pain and suffering and choice for us (limited though it probably is). They must therefore be necessary ingredients, just as the law of gravity is necessary for existence. Stands to reason...

I'm retracting my statement. I have a new road to go down... Pain is a result of nerve stimulus and such things, not the direct interaction of some being. So lets leave that aside. Instead, I ask why people are given the choice to do wrong? If there is no afterlife, then there is no reward for the good, no punishment for the bad. The bad people ruin the lives of the good people and get away with it. Does this benevolent force find it acceptable that it has created people who are only going to be put through pain by other people? Why didn't it instead create the universe in a way that we would evolve altruistic characteristics long before we were capable of harnassing evil? This way, it would have created a lovely place where people help oneanother instead of killing an dhurting. The benevolence of this force is now in question, as it is behaving rather unbenevolently. Unless it rewards the good people? Does it? If not, can you still call it benevolent?
(December 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm)bozo Wrote: CR, I am unfamiliar with Katherine Tate's old granny so your comment is meaningless and a bit of a time waster....like much of your threads.

Bozo, behave! Tongue
Or at least take the bickering elsewhere, as neither of you are contributing anything to this thread by arguing like this. Smile

LukeMC, okay your thread I'll bow out with what amounts to " gracefully " in my lexicon.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#23
RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Thankyou Bozo Smile
And CoxRox, I'm eagerly awaiting it.
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#24
RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:50 pm
(December 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm)bozo Wrote: with Katherine Tate's old granny so your comment is meaningless and a bit of a time waster....like much of your threads.
Whether you've seen it or not, that's a matter of opinion so I recommend you don't assert yourself in such a negative way. Its not as if everyone agrees with you and I don't see a problem with CR's threads, she does her best and is open and honest as far as I'm concerned. Ok? There's no need to get personal for no good reason. Good of you to bow out and perhaps try to stay "graceful" or in good humour towards people unless you have a good reason not to be.
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#25
RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:54 pm
(December 6, 2008 at 8:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm)bozo Wrote: with Katherine Tate's old granny so your comment is meaningless and a bit of a time waster....like much of your threads.
Whether you've seen it or not, that's a matter of opinion so I recommend you don't assert yourself in such a negative way. Its not as if everyone agrees with you and I don't see a problem with CR's threads, she does her best and is open and honest as far as I'm concerned. Ok? There's no need to get personal for no good reason.
EVF, I don't take shit from anyone, including you! If you want to acuse me of being negative...go ahead and explain.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm (This post was last modified: December 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm by LukeMC.)
And do so in private messages.
This thread wasn't designed for people to come and fight Sad
Meh, fair enough. Battle it out.
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RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:58 pm
(December 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm)LukeMC Wrote: And do so in private messages.
This thread wasn't designed for people to come and fight Sad
Meh, fair enough. Battle it out.

Luke MC, I've already said I'll bow out of your thread, is that not enough for you?
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RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:59 pm
It was until you came back to respond to EvF's comment. I'll just keep quite. I'm not a mod.
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RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 9:01 pm
(December 6, 2008 at 8:59 pm)LukeMC Wrote: It was until you came back to respond to EvF's comment. I'll just keep quite. I'm not a mod.

So you didn't expect me to respond to EVF then???? Come on.
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RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Okay, I'm sorry.
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