Some Very Strange Websites

[Watson]

Lol I guess the rest of this forum was invisible to you at the time, then. The part where I and many other theists have presented some pretty rational reasons, at the very least for us, for believing.

[Minimalist]

"Invisible" isn't the word.

"Delusional", maybe.

[Caecilian]

Lol I guess the rest of this forum was invisible to you at the time, then. The part where I and many other theists have presented some pretty rational reasons, at the very least for us, for believing.

David Icke no doubt has reasons for believing in the great reptilian conspiracy.

Gary Kasparov no doubt has reasons for believing that the Middle Ages didn't exist.

Other folk have reasons for believing that the Earth is flat, or that 'Monatomic Gold' has mystical healing properties.

They have their own reasons for believing, and these are irrational reasons, just likes yours are.

You beliefs are precisely as rational as those of Icke, Kasparov and the flat earthers. Which is to say: not rational at all. In fact, as I tried to show in the OP, there are important ways in which your religion is considerably crazier than any of the other fruitbat groups that I talked about.

[theophilus]

THE CULT broke into factions years ago. Heres some links to a few representative groups:
CULT

If you wake up some morning and discover that all the Christians have disappeared you will probably with you had paid more attention to this site.

[Paul the Human]

THE CULT broke into factions years ago. Heres some links to a few representative groups:
CULT

If you wake up some morning and discover that all the Christians have disappeared you will probably with you had paid more attention to this site.

Or throw a party to celebrate a new age of enlightenment.

[tackattack]

@Caecilian - Do you really feel this way?
RATIONAL, adj. Devoid of all delusions save those of observation, experience and reflection
Is everyone who doesn't see things your way and share your experiences irrational and bat-shit crazy or just theists? Your intolerance mayhap need a check. You might be under some delusion of your own.

[Violet]

THE CULT broke into factions years ago. Heres some links to a few representative groups:
CULT

If you wake up some morning and discover that all the Christians have disappeared you will probably with you had paid more attention to this site.

Though I'd actually mourn the loss of one person I kind of like, who although I hope will come to her senses: I know she will not.

But then I'd cheer the death of much of the american infrastructure... it would quickly become anarchy, and so I would have to hurry... but I could easily accomplish a quick theft of some vital necessities and be free a year early. And the effects would be felt worldwide... perfect time to get out of the country as well.

But then... it would probably be less potent a situation than the one I am already in... though the early freedom is a major draw to this idea

And the site I would not even have paid attention to beyond cursory interest as to why they all committed suicide.

[Caecilian]

@Caecilian - Do you really feel this way?
RATIONAL, adj. Devoid of all delusions save those of observation, experience and reflection
Is everyone who doesn't see things your way and share your experiences irrational and bat-shit crazy or just theists? Your intolerance mayhap need a check. You might be under some delusion of your own.

Yep, I really do feel this way. If that makes me intolerant, then I'm intolerant.

As far as I'm concerned, the only difference between Christianity and the beliefs of David Icke is that Christianity is socially accepted/ sanctioned. In our society its okay to believe in jesus the eternal saviour, angels, immaterial souls, miracles, heaven and hell etc; its not okay to believe in alien lizards controlling the government and drinking the blood of babies.

But in actuality, the evidence for both worldviews is the same, i.e. nil. The plausibility of both worldviews is the same, i.e. nil. And the rationality of both worldviews is the same, i.e. nil. Furthermore, both worldviews are founded on people's bizarre hallucinatory experiences that properly come under the purview of abnormal psychology.

In other words: religion is socially sanctioned insanity.

[tackattack]

Actually it's "okay" to believe what you want and say what you want as long as it isn't being forced into schools and down people's throats or infringing on their freedoms. Where you're at that might happen a lot. You're rightfully inclined to believe that all theists are irrational, delusional nut jobs; especially here among the like-minded. I'm glad you're intellectually honest enough to see that you could be being intolerant even if you aren't ascenting to it.
Is the only evidence of reality materialistic in nature? What is your definition of plausible? Do you agree to the definition of rational above?

[downbeatplumb]

The trouble with delusional beliefs is that they inform peoples actions.

On many threads on this site you can find examples of this leading to stupid and dangerous things being done because of belief.

These delusions also make people think they can enforce things on others. I'm thinking mainly of Iran and Saudi Arabia but I'm sure it happens in the USA too.

In Summary:

If peoples beliefs didnt have wider implications then I wouldnt have as much as of a problem with it as I do.

My attitude to belief changed on 9/11