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How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 17, 2015 at 9:50 pm
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Jeff Wise finds a strange paradox about the MH370 wing debris:
http://jeffwise.net/2015/10/09/the-flape...on-riddle/
The barnacle coverage on the flaperon shows no clear water line (barnacles only grow a safe distance below the water line), suggesting that the flaperon was fully submerged (for approximately 4 months).
But paradoxically the flaperon floated for thousands of kilometres from the presumed crash site. It's "physically impossible" to both float and be fully submerged at the same time.
How could this be? Wise can't offer any good explanation.
So, maybe it didn't float at all, but was sitting in the perp's laboratory for 4 months, and then dumped off the side of a container ship to look like fake wreckage.
Also, there's a mysterious clear patch on the flaperon, which is not eroded like other areas. Maybe this is where the flaperon was tethered to something else.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 17, 2015 at 9:56 pm
I don't understand why I've seen really gross things and this is not remotely gross but it's grossing me out. Weird.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm
Couldn't something float yet be submerged if it had air trapped in it?
I don't know how these flaperons are constructed. Might they have some buoyancy from trapped air?
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm
Probably Obama. Amirite mralstoner?
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 12:20 am
(October 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Probably Obama. Amirite mralstoner?
I don't know if it was Obama, but it was definitely a Muslim.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 12:22 am
Must be one of them fucking miracles I keep hearing about.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 12:26 am
You actually given even Australians a bad name.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 1:57 am
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(October 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Couldn't something float yet be submerged if it had air trapped in it?
I don't know how these flaperons are constructed. Might they have some buoyancy from trapped air?
I think the problem is that an object is very unlikely to exactly match the buoyancy/weight of water:
Quote:“It is very hard to build something that will float slightly below the surface,” wrote David Griffin, an oceanographer with the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), in an email. “The probability that an aircraft part does this is miniscule. The only way it can do this is if some of the object breaks the surface. If it does not break the surface AT ALL it must sink.”
As for the flaperon materials:
Quote:The upper and lower surfaces of 777 flaperon are “made of honeycombed composite – presumably carbon fiber” while “the leading edge is mainly made from high tensile aluminum (2024-T3) apart from the fibreglass doubler.”4 As a general rule, things made of composite material exhibit excellent buoyancy. The honeycomb materials which makes up most of the volume of the composite skin weighs only about 5 percent as much as water.5 Composite aircraft parts, therefore, tend to float fairly high in the water,
Yes, air could presumably be trapped in the honeycomb, although they say the honeycomb would crumble/collapse at deep sea levels.
But still, floating while submerged sounds unlikely. More likely it was tethered beneath the surface somehow.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 2:10 am
(October 18, 2015 at 12:20 am)Exian Wrote: (October 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Probably Obama. Amirite mralstoner?
I don't know if it was Obama, but it was definitely a Muslim.
My guess is that it was a joint operation between China and Russia. It was in China's neighbourhood, and the plane could have flown straight into China over Burma, and the Chinese are technically smart enough to do it. And there were three Russians on board, who could provide the muscle, and the hijack was a convenient distraction from Putin's invasion of Crimea.
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RE: How the MH370 Flaperon Floated
October 18, 2015 at 2:31 am
(October 18, 2015 at 1:57 am)mralstoner Wrote: But still, floating while submerged sounds unlikely. More likely it was tethered beneath the surface somehow.
What sort of tech would that involve in 5000m waters?
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