Actual Infinities

[Mudhammam]

[I_am_not_mafia]

Any particular reason for that?

[Mudhammam]

The fact that you just write off a debate that has extended for centuries with a fiat assertion about philosophy and a positivist dogma about the meaning of truth.

[I_am_not_mafia]

The fact that you just write off a debate that has extended for centuries with a fiat assertion about philosophy and a positivist dogma about the meaning of truth.

While ignoring that chadwooters doesn't even bother trying to respond to my arguments?

Instead you post a masturbation smiley instead of even trying to stand up for philosophy.

Philosophy is largely obsolete since the rise of science. 95% of it is mental masturbation that is not grounded in the real world. To do so it would have to obtain and present evidence and then it wouldn't be philosophy, it would be a science.

So if you want, continue to to philosophy thinking that it is in anyway useful and makes you seem intelligent.

[Mudhammam]

Spoken like a true dogmatist - lots of handwaving, zero substance. I agree with CW that before you dismiss the concepts herein discussed, including the various projects of philosophers, or try to formulate an argument against them, you should learn about them first. "Philosophy is largely obsolete since the rise of science" gives away your astounding ignorance.

As Rebecca Goldstein argues:

What's wrong with this story? Well, for starters it's internally incoherent. You can't argue for science making philosophy obsolete without indulging in philosophical arguments.

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[Mystic]

I like your signature Nestor.

[Mudhammam]

I like your signature Nestor.

Thanks. I recently finished his Incoherence of the Philosophers and The Deliverance From Error. Have you read those?

[Mystic]

I like your signature Nestor.

Thanks. I recently finished his Incoherence of the Philosophers and The Deliverance From Error. Have you read those?

No I haven't. Should I read them?

[houseofcantor]

Guys, answer me this.
If there's a planet 65million light years away, and they had a powerful telescope and could view our earth, would they see dinosaurs walking about right now?
And if they recorded what they saw and played it back on massive Samsung lcd tv and we built a huge telescope to see them clearly as they have, would we also see the dinosaurs walking around our own earth on their tv?

No. Whackjob.  

The flag on the moon is 125cm (4 feet) long. You would require a telescope around 200 meters in diameter to see it.

~from http://www.telescopes.com/blogs/helpful-...n-the-moon

I was trying to get some numbers and facts to go with the problems imagined in my head, and came up with the above as a starter... so yer telescope would have to be as big as the solar system or something equally unlikely. Besides, their TV would be showing scenes from 130 million years ago.

[Mudhammam]

Thanks. I recently finished his Incoherence of the Philosophers and The Deliverance From Error. Have you read those?

No I haven't. Should I read them?

I didn't care much for the Deliverance, but the Incoherence was pretty good - though kind of difficult at times. Al-Ghazali was definitely a bright fellow, though it's the only philosophy book I've read thus far where the author concludes that his opponents are infidels and hence worthy of death.