Conversational Challenges

[Alex K]

Some of those are "We don't know." And some are just a google search away.

For the last one, you need to understand the burden of proof and why it rests on the person making the claim.

I'm sorry, but "We don't know." is a very weak argument against close-minded

But it is the truth. Why do you even feel compelled to tell them otherwise? It is not necessary for justifying atheism to know everything. That's a stupid and dishonest criterion and you shouldn't even accept the premise that the question needs to be addressed for atheism to be valid

[Iroscato]

Some of those are "We don't know." And some are just a google search away.

For the last one, you need to understand the burden of proof and why it rests on the person making the claim.

I'm sorry, but "We don't know." is a very weak argument against close-minded christians.

Also, google isn't such a reliable place to search for atheist arguments.

Firstly, welcome to AF and I hope you enjoy your time here

In regards to it being a weak argument, well...have you ever used an argument that they haven't dismissed out of hand? 'We don't know' is the (ahem) God's honest truth. The crux of that argument is that god should never be the automatic fallback answer for such questions. It should be the absolute last resort, when any and all other avenues of scientific inquiry have been utterly exhausted. So far in our history, this has not happened. I doubt it will happen anytime soon, either.

I appreciate it might not be of much use to you, however. I admire your determination when arguing with these cock-socks, I pretty much retired from the art several months ago and am mainly here for the lulz

[Simon Moon]

Some of those are "We don't know." And some are just a google search away.

For the last one, you need to understand the burden of proof and why it rests on the person making the claim.

I'm sorry, but "We don't know." is a very weak argument against close-minded christians.

As weak as you or the Christians claim it to be, it is a hell of a lot better than making stuff up.

Besides, "I don't know" leads to curious people researching what the actual answer is.

Also, google isn't such a reliable place to search for atheist arguments.

Actually, google can lead to many good sites with responses to theist arguments.

Start with this one:

Iron Chariots


They have some of the best responses to every argument theists use (Kalam, Teleological, Ontological, Pascal's Wager, etc.) 
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[IATIA]

"How do you explain how you come from a rock?"

I do not know where the "life came from a rock" originated.  Life started with some, heretofore, unknown chemical process.  We can replicate the formation of the individual building blocks (self-replicating cell membranes and self-replicating RNA), but without a satisfactory time frame or a way to speed up the time frame, it is still in the realm of debate of the actual processes involved to create life.  We have not even come up with an absolute description of life nor at what point the chemical process can be considered life.

For instance, is a virus alive?  That is still up for debate.

[Whateverist]

.. but I always come across christian arguments that are hard to answer, 
Arguments such as: 

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"How do you explain how you come from a rock?"

In an insanely large number of gradual transformations.

"What came before the big bang?"

No one knows, scientists and clergy alike. But feel free to speculate. My imagination is drawn to a multiverse of cellular universes. When one pops the materials go into its neighbors. But where did all that galactic soap bubbles come from? At some point you you just have to admit you don't know. (So much more intellectually honest than just chirping goddidit.)

"You can't proof the big bang occured!"

It is very hard to prove anything outside of mathematics. What of it?

"How do you proof god did not exist?"

There isn't any need to disprove what has never been demonstrated to begin with.



Of course anyone who is impressed with these sorts of arguments are not likely to be atheists anyway.

[Whateverist]

Right. Admitting when you don't know something is called intellectual honesty.

Pretending to know everything, while providing no evidence, is called being delusional true Christian.

Probably just a typo.  Fixed that for you.

[Exian]

When they ask "What is your proof that god does not exist?", after you explain the burden of proof, tell them you lack the same amount of evidence for god as you do for krishna and allah.

[robvalue]

Haha! Good point. Give your friend a load of this:

http://youtu.be/d0A4_bwCaX0

[Exian]

Awe what!?! I'd much rather drop a pic of terminator robvalue and call game.

[ignoramus]

Ask them which God they'd be worshipping if they were born in India?
Picking the right God is like playing Russian roulette.
Not all the Gods can be the one true God, but they can all be false Gods.