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Political Correctness
#11
RE: Political Correctness
I don't mind PC speech that much. Also, I'm not always as PC as others would like me to be. The PC filter in my brain does not always catch everything. What bothers me more is the over sensitivity and sometimes over reaction demonstrated by others when not used.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#12
RE: Political Correctness
(December 9, 2015 at 8:29 am)KUSA Wrote: I hate PC. It is a form of tyranny.

Culture imposes orthodoxy. 
"PC" is a kind of orthodoxy. 

If you have two dogs, one vicious and the other friendly, which dog will live?
  the one you feed.

If you do not wish to support the PC orthodox, then just don't.   When enough people disregard an orthodoxy it is swept into history's trash bin.

I'm hoping the counter-intel-pro propaganda  masterpiece  "Conspiracy Theory " joins PC in such an end.
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#13
RE: Political Correctness
PC huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXF8MIG_HQI
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#14
RE: Political Correctness
(December 9, 2015 at 8:22 am)c172 Wrote:
Quote:I think the whole thing is too complex to say would I rather go with or without it.

I'd rather go without it, but...

Quote:I don't understand political correctness when it comes to individual words being used.  And I think religions can cause people to be offended irrationally by things in a very stubborn way.

As for the first point, I would never, say, call a black/African American person a nigger. I just wouldn't (I'm white, btw). At the same time, I don't particularly like "cripple". I grew up "disabled", and now we are "PWD"s, which I kind of had to get used to, but have. So, I get it.

On the second point, I'd have thought it was atheists that would be pigeonholed as being more prone to taking this kind of offense. We're pigeonholed as being the "librulz".

Iwould never use the word paki or nigger in an offensive way.  I've never been offended by someone calling me cracker, honkey or white bastard before.  I was called these things when I was young because I live in a mainly Pakistani area and I was just genuinely confused by it, my thoughts would basically be, yes I certainly am white.
I only disagree with these words being used now ONLY because I find it hypocritical that all these other races get to be outraged over a word so it makes sense white people shouldn't be.  But I'm not outraged, I'd change my name to Paul Cracker Honkey Whitey, it seriously wouldn't bother me.

Changing words and outrage over words is just smoke and mirrors around the real issue which is attitudes towards different people.

It makes no difference if a white police officer is thinking "I'm goin to get some fuckin niggers tonight." Or if he's thinking "I'm going to racially profile some Afro-American males tonight."

It isn't the word that does the damage. 

It's like if I call a Scottish person "scotty" while I'm beating him and enslaving his family it won't make him feel better if I beat and enslave his family while calling him "northern individual of Scottish Gaelic ancestors."

By the way, this is the funniest fucking family guy scene ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA9ahNNvGhI


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

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#15
RE: Political Correctness
Political correctness is less important than truth. Of course, we should always try to be kind, sensitive, and considerate to others when we speak. But not to the point where it gets in the way of us speaking the truth.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#16
RE: Political Correctness
I agree. But not only that but when PC goes too far it's not even sensitive when everyone recognizes how condescending it can be.
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#17
RE: Political Correctness
(December 9, 2015 at 9:08 am)paulpablo Wrote: It isn't the word that does the damage. 

Yeah, it is. These words serve to dehumanize. And once someone is seen is sub-human, then they are outside the umbrella of protection of "civilized" fold-- you know, good guys. Like. . . white and stuff.

It's hard to point a flame thrower at Korean civilians. It's easy to point one at "fucking Gooks." It's hard to attack a homosexual person. It's easy to beat up a "fucking faggit." Same thing goes for "fucking niggers."
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#18
RE: Political Correctness
I feel like don't be an ass. It's not hard. C172 personally I feel like disabled is fine because I can't separate my lived experience from myself as a person. That's just silly I'm not a person with pansexuality or a person with blackness. I'm a pansexual. I'm a black woman. I'm a disable person. "With" I feel is just a ridiculous way to minimize and silence people.
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#19
RE: Political Correctness
PC debates always arise this time of year, because people get "offended" by words like "Christmas" or manger scenes in yards. It's a little ironic because PC is meant to be speech to make all feel inclusive, but in reality it's rephrasing to exclude that which people find offensive and in turn offending others. It's a not a "holiday" tree lighting ceremony. it's a Christmas tree lighting ceremony. It's not a holiday menora, it's a Hanukkah Menora. Call it what it is.
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#20
RE: Political Correctness
Yeah, Person Who Is African-American is just cumbersome, even shortened to PWIAA.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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