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Yup. This is For Certain.
#91
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
(January 10, 2016 at 4:29 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Expanding the definition of terrorism, like you guys have all done in this thread[...]

Wrong. You still haven't read the definition -- it's painfully obvious by now.

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#92
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
Two weeks ago they were asked to leave, and maybe foot a bill.  Now ones dead and six others are going to end up in federal prison.  Good job, really got close to their objective on that one.
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#93
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
Would the world really be a lesser place with these assholes out of it?
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#94
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
(January 28, 2016 at 8:48 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 4:29 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Expanding the definition of terrorism, like you guys have all done in this thread[...]

Wrong.  You still haven't read the definition -- it's painfully obvious by now.

Yeah, do you know what expanded means? You take every little thing in the dictionary definition of terrorism and apply it to how the government should treat groups of people. There is a difference between a dictionary definition of something and a legal definition. Do you realize that? The dictionary is not the law. Thank goodness.

Do you really think it's a good idea to classify groups who intimidate people as terrorists? Jesus titty fucking Christ, what sort of facist shit is that? I'd be scared to live in that world. Trump would be salivating at that prospect.
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#95
Yup. This is For Certain.
I wonder what Alex Jones is currently saying about the situation.
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#96
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
(January 28, 2016 at 1:13 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 8:48 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Wrong.  You still haven't read the definition -- it's painfully obvious by now.

Yeah, do you know what expanded means? You take every little thing in the dictionary definition of terrorism and apply it to how the government should treat groups of people. There is a difference between a dictionary definition of something and a legal definition. Do you realize that? The dictionary is not the law. Thank goodness.

Do you really think it's a good idea to classify groups who intimidate people as terrorists? Jesus titty fucking Christ, what sort of facist shit is that? I'd be scared to live in that world. Trump would be salivating at that prospect.

They intimidated people by taking over a building at gun point! If this was a group of Muslims would you hesitate to call them terrorists?
There was a muslim man caught in Euro Disney with a gun about an hour ago, just a "demonstrator" then, who we should pat on the head and send on his way.



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#97
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
(January 28, 2016 at 1:13 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 8:48 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Wrong.  You still haven't read the definition -- it's painfully obvious by now.

Yeah, do you know what expanded means? You take every little thing in the dictionary definition of terrorism and apply it to how the government should treat groups of people. There is a difference between a dictionary definition of something and a legal definition. Do you realize that? The dictionary is not the law. Thank goodness.

Do you really think it's a good idea to classify groups who intimidate people as terrorists? Jesus titty fucking Christ, what sort of facist shit is that? I'd be scared to live in that world. Trump would be salivating at that prospect.

If you look up the FBI's definition of terrorism, it follows the OED quite closely.

Yours ... not so much. You're entitled to use words as you please, of course; but you're not entitled to shelter when people point out your application of personal definitions when the discourse is public. If you don't like the criticism, that's not my problem. Words have meanings, and if you wish to twist those meanings in order to accord with your own personal view, then you have to expect that misunderstandings will occur and rancor will follow.

Those guys in Oregon wouldn't have done what they did if they didn't have firepower to enforce their will. That, right there, is the intimidation -- which is an element of both terrorism and violence.

tl/dr: if you're outside mainstream usage, don't get butthurt when folks point that out. Make your case using the language we all speak, or quit whining when your bullshit is called for what it is. Words have meanings. Ignore them at your own risk ... or risk to your message.

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#98
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
(January 28, 2016 at 1:46 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 1:13 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Yeah, do you know what expanded means? You take every little thing in the dictionary definition of terrorism and apply it to how the government should treat groups of people. There is a difference between a dictionary definition of something and a legal definition. Do you realize that? The dictionary is not the law. Thank goodness.

Do you really think it's a good idea to classify groups who intimidate people as terrorists? Jesus titty fucking Christ, what sort of facist shit is that? I'd be scared to live in that world. Trump would be salivating at that prospect.

They intimidated people by taking over a building at gun point! If this was a group of Muslims would you hesitate to call them terrorists?
There was a muslim man caught in Euro Disney with a gun about an hour ago, just a "demonstrator" then, who we should pat on the head and send on his way.

Just to point out one thing.  I don't think they took over the building at gun point.  From what I can gather the building was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend, so nobody was at gunpoint.

The comparison between that and Disney world isn't really that logical since Disney world, and probably the hotel was probably occupied at the time.

I would call the bundy ranchers terrorists by dictionary definition, although I don't think the general public had much to worry about from the group, their aim was to intimidate the government, which is pretty difficult to do, which is why they ended up getting arrested with one shot dead.

Clearly though the general public, civilians and even some Muslims have a lot to be worried about when it comes to Islamic terrorists when they do pop up.  They don't tend to discriminate much about who they target, just anything and anyone who looks western to them, or the wrong type of Muslim.


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#99
RE: Yup. This is For Certain.
Quote:Do you really think it's a good idea to classify groups who intimidate people as terrorists?

It's a good start....especially if they are holding assault rifles.
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