Rape in Germany

[WinterHold]

There's a lot of insanity on both sides on this discussion. I don't know when people left reasonableness and logic at the door but I have must have missed the memo.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing this in the grand scheme of things.

It's like you either have someone like Obama, Merkel, or Trump.

Somebody who is unable to see or say anything negative (not to mention factual) about Islam, or someone at the other extreme may be hesitant to accept that there are families who genuinely need help, and reasonably well adjusted people who should be willing to fit in.

It's already happening in Europe too, the insanity of blind immigration policies have given the right wingers a ton of momentum. The left wing/politically correct/too liberal for anyone's good have really fucked things up. Who could have guessed the right wingers might turn out to be the popular choice in Europe over such a short period of time.

Forcing down penalties can save your life. That what God taught in the Quran, though. Not acknowledging bigot groups because you simply have "mutual interests" with them, is one recipe for disasters.

It will reflect a reaction that we see today : the far right.

The far right is just angry. Just angry, no other gestures can be concluded from it. Another version from ISIS. The other face of the same fucking filthy coin.

People ask me : why do you criticize the west only ?
Heck; Muslims have salafies and radicals too !

The right's madness though is what's going to change Europe forever. It will change the so-called golden standard that the Schengen region had post WW2.

Nations don't die, until its own people begin to tear their homeland bleeding it from the inside.

Whoever buys the lies of the right, or the lies of modern Muslim Sunni/Shia extremists, has sold his soul to the abyss.

And the liberal sect is also too drenched in financial corruption and bribery, bringing in the worst types of Muslims into the country, as if they were inviting them to commit terrorism; so when it's time to invade their countries and rob their oil, an excuse will be so ready : "these people are bad !!! you already saw the immigrants" 

Allowing people from warfare stained regions in, then whine about the violence..What do you expect ?
Violence that some western countries too, are drenched in to the bone.

And atop of all these cogs, smashing the society into a goo, superpowers sit with atomic weapons aimed at each other. The economy though, can crack by wind; it doesn't even need explosives

[mr_j936]

There's a lot of insanity on both sides on this discussion. I don't know when people left reasonableness and logic at the door but I have must have missed the memo.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing this in the grand scheme of things.

It's like you either have someone like Obama, Merkel, or Trump.

Somebody who is unable to see or say anything negative (not to mention factual) about Islam, or someone at the other extreme may be hesitant to accept that there are families who genuinely need help, and reasonably well adjusted people who should be willing to fit in.

It's already happening in Europe too, the insanity of blind immigration policies have given the right wingers a ton of momentum:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6290...den-France

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Germany, who would have guessed those countries would experience such a shift? The left wing/politically correct/too liberal for anyone's good have really fucked things up.

By being in denial of the now obvious problems with this unyielding and uncompromising bid to silence/slander critics, shouting "racism" to the point where the word has lost almost all meaning (Islam isn't even a fucking race Merkel, you gimp) they have successfully compounded the problem to the point where the results will be far more consequential, as opposed to if they were honest in the first place.

Not sure what the Hell they were all thinking.

There is a certain balance that should exist. But when you stretch it too far on one end it will hurl back with great speed towards the other end. And the liberal governments the past decade have been stretching it too far by not addressing problems of non integration, by not addressing problems of freedom of speech being under threat. Drawing a cartoon or writing a book can bring the author in question's life in danger... And in fact they went along with it. In Britain if I am not mistaken you could be charged with racism for criticizing Muslims...

You didn't hear Muslims complain back then that they were taking an uneven right to suppress speech that other groups did not have. You didn't hear them complaining that everyone in British schools have to eat Halal meat because they demand it, and here are the results... People are sick and tired...