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Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
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Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
So it's been more than 6 years now since the sale of ordinary incandescent light bulbs have been banned (with some exceptions, such as halogens so long as they achieve at least 15 lm/W effiency). It's also illegal to import them for personal use (without a written exemption) - if they are under 150W and rated for 220V or higher. If however you want to buy a case of bulbs rated fro the American standard of 120V you're fine, and if you want to import 150W or higher you're also fine.

It is true that incandescent light bulbs are a prime example of planned obsolescence, but it is not true that they can't last for many years. Like this one of mine:

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Now there's nothing special about how it's plugged in. It's plugged straight into the 240V mains with no dimmer, and gets switched on and off several times a day it's the toilet light. It's been in there so long that it's developed an enviable amount of rust. It's a Mirabella brand 60W 240V light bulb, and it is at least 10 years old. This is a rarity in that it has exceeded its expected life of 1100 hours (which is about what their lights are rated for - 1 year at 3 hours per day). Now you might say, well it's lasted this long because I don't use it for 3 hours a day - well that's not really true. It's been left on overnight many many times, and the switching on and off is what causes the filament the most stress - not the continual burning of the light.

So when this one blows, how will I ensure the next one lasts for another 10 years? Simple. The life expectancy of an incandescent light is determined by the input voltage. In fact, what most people don't know, it is inversely exponentially proportional to voltage. Think of it this way, let's say you hold the light in your hand by the base with one fingertip on the bottom connector of the light, thus making a closed circuit. You are now providing about 0.2V or so to the light globe - not enough to actually make the filament glow, but it's certainly not 0V either. The light globe is rated for 1000-2000 hours, let's say it's rated 1500 hours. If you were to hold that light-bulb continually for nine days then you will have been supplying it with continual voltage for longer than the 1500 hours that it is rated for - what's the chance do you think that this alone would blow it?

A 60W globe rated for 120V is very different to a 60W globe rated for 240V. Let's consider the case of what happens if you plug the 220V globe into a 120V socket.

The 120V globe consumes 60W. We can work out the resistance of the filament as 60*(120/60)2 = 240 ohms. The 240V globe consumes 60W also, therefore its resistance can also be worked out: 60*(240/60)^2 = 960 ohms. Perhaps you have a European globe rated for 220V, in this case the filament would provide 60*(220/60)2 = 806.67 ohms resistance. So let's now consider the brightest incandescent light money can buy with a bayonet tip - 200W. We'll say the rated voltage is 220V - the European standard. The resistance of the filament is therefore 200*(220/200)2 = 242 ohms. Did you notice this is almost identical to the resistance of the 60W 120V globe? Yet it has a much heavier duty filament than the 120V globe, as explained by being rated to run at that voltage. If you were to plug this globe into a 120V socket it would consume about 60 Watts of power (59.5W to be exact). So now we know if I replace my current light with a 200W/220V globe and run it at 120 volts it will shine at the same brightness as the 60W/240V globe does.

But the interesting thing is what happens to the life expectancy of the globe. Let's say the rated life expectancy at 220V is 1500 hours. And the life expectancy at 0V is pretty much "forever". This should explain to you why the life expectancy of a globe increases exponentially as the voltage is decreased - see even at 0.2V it really should last "almost forever", and at 120V it will last thousands of times as long as it would at 220V. This only accounts for the evaporation of the filament and the stress on it of the voltage though, and not other factors such as a house fire destroying the bulb. Let's use the equation: Lifetime = 1000 hrs = (220V/220V)13*1000 Reduce to 120V and lifetime = (220V/120V)13*1000 = 2,643,252 hrs, or if you prefer, 302 years if burned continually 24 hours a day. And if you were to start with a 200W globe rated for 120V and decreased the input voltage to 65.5V you would obtain exactly the same benefit.

So they do last an awful fucking long time, just so long as you don't use them in the way intended.
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
Just some things that come to mind concerning your calculation -
It is conceivable that the 200W bulb will draw a bit more than 60W (i.e. (120/220)^2 times the power) at reduced voltage because the resistance will be noticeably lower at the new operating point as compared to 200W. Also, it is possible that the 200W bulb running with 60W will have lower filament temperature than a regular 60W bulb, thus reducing the efficiency in visible light, so there might be a trade off between longevity and efficiency. Those are just ideas, I don't know how big these effects are.

p.s. standard voltage has been 230V for some time now, at least in Germany
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
I have a fluorescent in my bathroom:
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14W white light is more than enough to shave! Smile

And they are supposed to last even longer! Wink


But, yes, I agree with you, if you can throttle down the voltage you apply to your filament bulbs, you're golden! But not everyone has that capability... perhaps with a dimmer that's always left at middle-intensity...
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
Fluorescent light bulbs make me depressed. I need pretty light to be happy.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
(January 15, 2016 at 7:29 am)pocaracas Wrote: But, yes, I agree with you, if you can throttle down the voltage you apply to your filament bulbs, you're golden! But not everyone has that capability... perhaps with a dimmer that's always left at middle-intensity...

A thyristor dimmer doesn't technically reduce the voltage, but it should in principle have the same effect on incandescent bulbs...
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
I use 200w light bulbs
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
(January 15, 2016 at 7:58 am)Losty Wrote: I use 200w light bulbs

Here, look at this sad polar bear what you've done!

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It is melting because of you!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
(January 15, 2016 at 8:00 am)Alex K Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 7:58 am)Losty Wrote: I use 200w light bulbs

Here, look at this sad polar bear what you've done!

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It is melting because of you!

D:

I don't know anything about light bulbs. So I just took a random guess and stuck with it.
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
Haha, I'm just kidding
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Breaking the myth: Incandescent bulbs don't last
(January 15, 2016 at 8:18 am)Alex K Wrote: Haha, I'm just kidding

Are you seriously kidding? D:
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