vote Donald trump!?

[KUSA]

So liberals can be gun nuts and ammosexuals too?

False dichotomy.

How so?

[I_am_not_mafia]

Look at the EU, it's practically on the verge of collapse due to the Muslim migrant invasion. Mathilda, since you live in the UK, what have you experienced, or what is your opinion on the migrants coming in the thousands. I've heard horror stories of massive amounts of rapes, robbery, abusing the welfare system, Muslim no go zones where they are implementing their own form of sharia law, the list goes on.

It's all bullshit spread around by Fox news and right wing American politicians. There are no no-go areas. If any sprung up in the UK, everyone would make sure to go there. It's the stubborn British mentality. But it's also part of the British mentality not to endulge in extremism. Hardly any of the Syrians have actually come to Britain compared to other countries, but the UK is a very mixed bag of races anyway because of the Common Wealth and all the countries that were invaded in the past.

Met blasts Donald Trump for 'London police in fear' claim

London’s Metropolitan police have said Donald Trump “could not be more wrong” when he claimed parts of London were so radicalised that officers feared for their lives.

The statement continued: “Any candidate for the presidential election in the United States of America is welcome to receive a briefing from the Met police on the reality of policing London.”

As for the EU being on the verge of collapse, that has more to do with the financial crisis that has continued since 2008 and the single currency. Don't forget the Greek bailouts that has been rumbling on for several years now and then remember that it is the one of the PIGS countries (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) so this is a massive problem. If there is a British exit from the EU then it's more likely due to apathy and not enough people voting rather than anything else. The Scottish referendum has shown us that people vote for the status quo.

Yes there has been a massive muslim migration into the EU and this has meant that the Schengen treaty has been closed down in parts, but this is temporary. Europe has had massive influxes of immigration in the past and can deal with it.

[I_am_not_mafia]

False dichotomy.

How so?

You can be liberal and own a gun but not be a gun nut or ammosexual.

A gun could just be a tool or something that you consider worthwhile having but not obsess over it like an ammosexual gun nut.

[scoobysnack]

Look at the EU, it's practically on the verge of collapse due to the Muslim migrant invasion. Mathilda, since you live in the UK, what have you experienced, or what is your opinion on the migrants coming in the thousands. I've heard horror stories of massive amounts of rapes, robbery, abusing the welfare system, Muslim no go zones where they are implementing their own form of sharia law, the list goes on.

It's all bullshit spread around by Fox news and right wing American politicians. There are no no-go areas. If any sprung up in the UK, everyone would make sure to go there. It's the stubborn British mentality. But it's also part of the British mentality not to endulge in extremism. Hardly any of the Syrians have actually come to Britain compared to other countries, but the UK is a very mixed bag of races anyway because of the Common Wealth and all the countries that were invaded in the past.

Met blasts Donald Trump for 'London police in fear' claim

London’s Metropolitan police have said Donald Trump “could not be more wrong” when he claimed parts of London were so radicalised that officers feared for their lives.

The statement continued: “Any candidate for the presidential election in the United States of America is welcome to receive a briefing from the Met police on the reality of policing London.”

As for the EU being on the verge of collapse, that has more to do with the financial crisis that has continued since 2008 and the single currency. Don't forget the Greek bailouts that has been rumbling on for several years now and then remember that it is the one of the PIGS countries (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) so this is a massive problem. If there is a British exit from the EU then it's more likely due to apathy and not enough people voting rather than anything else. The Scottish referendum has shown us that people vote for the status quo.

Yes there has been a massive muslim migration into the EU and this has meant that the Schengen treaty has been closed down in parts, but this is temporary. Europe has had massive influxes of immigration in the past and can deal with it.

Appreciate your perspective and would like to hear more since you live there and I obviously don't.

I read the story about how Trump was wrong, but have also read how the local UK police say the government is just trying to cover it up, maybe just to be PC. Do you feel comfortable going into the areas of the article? I have an uncle in England, but he has never mentioned anything about Muslims making things difficult, but I don't talk to him much.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/...ion-London

There is a story in Germany where the cops are being investigated for reporting the rapes, which the government was trying to cover up.

I agree the EU is in trouble for quite a while, but also wonder if the current migration problem hasn't made things get out of control quickly. Did you get a chance to watch that short video on Muslim demographics, and how they are growing compared to the fertility rates of native Europeans. Does that worry you at all? England for example has a 1.6 percent fertility rate of native Europeans, which is unsustainable especially with welfare programs, because you need at least 2.1 percent just to maintain population, and in order to support the elderly, you need to have people entering the workforce as they leave, but if you have more leaving than entering it all collapses. The fertility rate of Muslims outnumbers natives, in many EU countries, which means that by 2025 a majority. I'd be curious what you think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

[KUSA]

How so?

You can be liberal and own a gun but not be a gun nut or ammosexual.

A gun could just be a tool or something that you consider worthwhile having but not obsess over it like an ammosexual gun nut.

I don't obsess over it at all. They are nothing more than tools to me. Important tools but still only tools.

[abaris]

Important tools but still only tools.

So, how often have you used them? Say, in comparison to a screwdriver or a hammer? Maybe a drill?

[Heat]

Exactly. Muslims are not a race, it's a lifestyle choice. How do you determine whether someone who claims not to be a Muslim is actually telling the truth? Which means greater checks on everyone who isn't a Muslim and further erosion of civil liberties. In other words, moving further towards a fascist state.

And the whole thing about doing it until 'we figure it out'. What on earth is that supposed to mean? Figure what out? Shouldn't a candidate for presidency already have a good idea of what's going on? If not him then definitely all the experts that are already employed by the intelligence agencies. It's basically another way of saying 'indefinitely' but without actually admitting so.

It's fairly easy to determine who is a muslim.  It's messy but it will detect about 99% and take about 20 seconds per person.

That is incredibly scary.

By the way, do you think Hitler started out saying "let's kill all the jews"? What makes you, or anyone else think that it will stop at banning.

[Heat]

The secret service doesn't report the numbers so there is no data to give you. Look at how many people hate Donald Trump, compared to others, and I think it's a safe assumption he's in the lead, but I can't prove it, so i'll give you a win for this one, but only because I don't have time to count them up. How about you gather some numbers to prove your point?

And really asking me to prove the number of death threats against everyone is a bull shit request, because that's impossible. It's like as asking to prove shit doesn't stink. You may think your shit doesn't stink, but I bet if you asked your mom who changed your diapers, she would tell you otherwise.

Exactly. It's impossible to prove, so why are you claiming it? Rules of an argument mean that positive claims have the burden of proof.

Lesson of the day: Don't use a subjective claim as your main counter-argument, and then cry when asked to back up your claim with evidence and are unable to.

[scoobysnack]

The secret service doesn't report the numbers so there is no data to give you. Look at how many people hate Donald Trump, compared to others, and I think it's a safe assumption he's in the lead, but I can't prove it, so i'll give you a win for this one, but only because I don't have time to count them up. How about you gather some numbers to prove your point?

And really asking me to prove the number of death threats against everyone is a bull shit request, because that's impossible. It's like as asking to prove shit doesn't stink. You may think your shit doesn't stink, but I bet if you asked your mom who changed your diapers, she would tell you otherwise.

Exactly. It's impossible to prove, so why are you claiming it? Rules of an argument mean that positive claims have the burden of proof.

Lesson of the day: Don't use a subjective claim as your main counter-argument, and then cry when asked to back up your claim with evidence and are unable to.

I never did, all I said was from what I've seen, Trump has received more death threats than anyone I've seen. Not sure why people have constructed a jump to conclusions mat and installed it in their living room to assume that no one in the history of the world has received more death threats than Donald Trump. Although no one has presented any numbers to prove me wrong.... Do you deny there are tons of death threats against trump?

I mean look at this SOB muslim talking about circumcising Trump. If you look at his youtube channel, the funny thing is if you look at the time line the video he made after this one, it was about the secret service visiting after making it. And then look at the rest of this guys videos, it's all about... they are not safe for work is all I'm going to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1YgVKoqLw

[KUSA]

Important tools but still only tools.

So, how often have you used them? Say, in comparison to a screwdriver or a hammer? Maybe a drill?

I used to be a technician before I changed my career to sales. When I was a technician I had to buy my tools. Some of them I used every day. Some of them were specialty tools that were used rarely. The specialty tools were expense and although they were used rarely, they were invaluable.

Guns are like that specialty tool. It doesn't get used often for its primary purpose but when it's needed, it is invaluable.