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Poll: Do you vote Donald Trump?
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vote Donald trump!?
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I love how people get wrapped around tha axle with Trump. He's playing everybody (left and right) openly and continues to win. The man, without fanfare, has torn apart the religious right's stranglehold on the GOP.

I love how the establishment, both left and right, are scared shitless of Trump. They have right to be. What could the Hillary campaign possibly say about him that isn't already public knowledge?

Right now there's a lot being played up about Trump and the women's vote. If Trump wins the nomination, all he has to do is remind everyone that Hillary said she wasn't a Tammy Wynette style 'stand by your man' type like she proclaimed and eviscerate her for being the self ingratiating cunt that she is. Hillary doesn't care how many appendages one has as long as she can step on your back to get where she's going.

Seriously, who changes his/her dialect depending on the demographics of the crowd? If this doesn't matter, then who's fooling who?

We don't elect a king/queen. The fact that a non-politician is leading this deal into a primary is a breathe of fresh air. The president of the United States is nothing more than a glorified sweeper in a parade following the animals with a shovel and a pale.
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(March 27, 2016 at 12:46 am)Cato Wrote: I love how people get wrapped around tha axle with Trump. He's playing everybody (left and right) openly and continues to win. The man, without fanfare, has torn apart the religious right's stranglehold on the GOP.

He's a hero in that regard; I'll give you that.

(March 27, 2016 at 12:46 am)Cato Wrote: I love how the establishment, both left and right, are scared shitless of Trump. They have right to be. What could the Hillary campaign possibly say about him that isn't already public knowledge?

I'm not scared of him at all. I'm salivating at the thought of him being the GOP nominee. Hilary doesn't need to reach the fringe lunatics who are supporting Trump in the Republican primaries. They are a small minority in the general electorate. She only needs to reach the sane majority. And Trump continues to make that easy.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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(March 27, 2016 at 1:47 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(March 27, 2016 at 12:46 am)Cato Wrote: I love how people get wrapped around tha axle with Trump. He's playing everybody (left and right) openly and continues to win. The man, without fanfare, has torn apart the religious right's stranglehold on the GOP.

He's a hero in that regard; I'll give you that.

(March 27, 2016 at 12:46 am)Cato Wrote: I love how the establishment, both left and right, are scared shitless of Trump. They have right to be. What could the Hillary campaign possibly say about him that isn't already public knowledge?

I'm not scared of him at all. I'm salivating at the thought of him being the GOP nominee. Hilary doesn't need to reach the fringe lunatics who are supporting Trump in the Republican primaries. They are a small minority in the general electorate. She only needs to reach the sane majority. And Trump continues to make that easy.
Hillary needs to win the Dem voters in the Blue States.  She doesn't need to worry about anyone (Dem or Repub) in the Red States.  They are irrelevant in the general election.  Right now it's doubtful if she will get the needed Dem votes in the Blue States because those people don't really like her.
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(March 26, 2016 at 4:59 pm)KUSA Wrote: Obama is a puppet.
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I like how only one of the Os on George's golden nameplate has a swastika. I don't know what the point is, but it gets that point across without going overboard and lacking class.
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(March 26, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 26, 2016 at 10:20 pm)Jenny A Wrote: He's American.  He's exactly what a red neck southerner with money would be: garish,  austentatious,  tasteless.  I like Canadians.  He will place Trump first in his policies,  like Cheney.  He wants to deport people who have been here since they were five.  He is so very outside that he can't even keep the names of foreign countries straight let alone their leaders and politics.  He is certainly not catholic,  and not christian either and pretends badly.  He tellsaid everyone to kiss his ass, which is about as unuseful a trait possible when dealing with either congress or foriegn governments.

Additionally, he is both for and against abortion, gay marriage, democrats, free speech,  international trade, universal health care,  taxes, and tariffs not because he has a nuanced view, but because he changes his mind moment to moment. He panders to racists, antisemites, anti muslems, and anti Hispanics.   He is a misogynist of the first order.  His answer to real arguments is attacks on personal  appearance.   He wouldn't know a fact if it bit him. I clock his lies at about once per 30 seconds. And the aren't just misleading statements that are verifiably whoopers.

Ample reason to vote for anyone but Trump--even Hillary Clinton or Ted Cruz.
So someone has been here since he was five.  That's a long free ride.  He wouldn't have been here in the first place if some dummy hadn't allowed his parents to bring in the whole tribe.

You read all of the above and then call a five year old a free rider? That's your only response? Imagine just for a moment living somewhere from the age of five or six months. And then discovering at, say twelve, that your residence wasn't legal. Where would you go? It's not a solvable problem for a child. And it's not as if some other country would become home just because you were born there.

More importantly, do you really think such a child is less a member of this county in any real sense? The difference between being born here and merely being raised here, is nothing with regard to loyalty, cultural identity, or contribution.

I'm sorry for you if such a child makes you feel threatened.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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(March 27, 2016 at 1:54 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 27, 2016 at 1:47 am)AFTT47 Wrote: He's a hero in that regard; I'll give you that.


I'm not scared of him at all. I'm salivating at the thought of him being the GOP nominee. Hilary doesn't need to reach the fringe lunatics who are supporting Trump in the Republican primaries. They are a small minority in the general electorate. She only needs to reach the sane majority. And Trump continues to make that easy.
Hillary needs to win the Dem voters in the Blue States.  She doesn't need to worry about anyone (Dem or Repub) in the Red States.  They are irrelevant in the general election.  Right now it's doubtful if she will get the needed Dem votes in the Blue States because those people don't really like her.

You continue to pretend that swing states do not exist. Right off the top, there are four states which haven't been reliably red or blue for decades: Florida, Ohio, Nevada and New Mexico, in order of importance. They represent > 21% of the the 270 EV needed to win. Florida is > 10% by itself. Then there are states like Utah (admittedly not very consequential) which have been solidly red for a long time but are so disgusted with Trump, are in play for Hillary. I personally wonder about Texas with its huge Hispanic population as well as my current home of Arizona.

Why don't you show us state by state models, justifying why Trump or Hillary will win in each? Until you do, I think your general model is simplistic and based more on what you want to happen than what is likely to happen.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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(March 27, 2016 at 2:19 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(March 27, 2016 at 1:54 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Hillary needs to win the Dem voters in the Blue States.  She doesn't need to worry about anyone (Dem or Repub) in the Red States.  They are irrelevant in the general election.  Right now it's doubtful if she will get the needed Dem votes in the Blue States because those people don't really like her.

You continue to pretend that swing states do not exist. Right off the top, there are four states which haven't been reliably red or blue for decades: Florida, Ohio, Nevada and New Mexico, in order of importance. They represent > 21% of the the 270 EV needed to win. Florida is > 10% by itself. Then there are states like Utah (admittedly not very consequential) which have been solidly red for a long time but are so disgusted with Trump, are in play for Hillary. I personally wonder about Texas with its huge Hispanic population as well as my current home of Arizona.

Why don't you show us state by state models, justifying why Trump or Hillary will win in each? Until you do, I think your general model is simplistic and based more on what you want to happen than what is likely to happen.
I'm basing my prognosis on the past couple of elections.  Consequently I give the Repub candidate all of the States that the previous Repub candidates won.  If Hillary is the Dem candidate she will most likely carry most of the Blue States but I figure that she will lose enough of them to lose the election.  Those States include Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and possibly Florida.

Now here's the important part you don't seem to understand:  In a classic Blue v. Red State matchup the Dem candidate doesn't need Ohio, Florida, New Mexico and Nevada.  He will still get 274 votes and he only needs 270 to win.  It would be nice if the Dem candidate won Arizona and Texas but he doesn't really need them to win.  Consequently, from a time and money standpoint it's senseless for the Dem candidate to waste a minute or a penny in any of the Red States.  He needs to focus on the Blue States and he has to retain the big ones at all costs.
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(March 26, 2016 at 2:33 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Our debt has skyrocketed under Obama, which is the only reason we are still going. Part of the plan is to get the US into further debt to make the collapse enough to bring in the new system. 

You don't need a plan to get further into debt, it's going to happen regardless of what people try to do. Money is debt. Watch the video below to find out about fractional reserve banking. The economic system is inherently flawed.

In a nutshell though lending creates money. Money lent needs to be repaid back with interest so there is never enough money in existence to pay back all the loans. Debt always increases faster as a result. An upshot of this is that there will always be a percentage of the population that fail.



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I drastically change my dialect depending on audience and occasion. It's the most natural thing. If I spoke like I speak to my grandmother when I give a talk, noone would understand it.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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(March 27, 2016 at 4:49 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(March 26, 2016 at 2:33 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Our debt has skyrocketed under Obama, which is the only reason we are still going. Part of the plan is to get the US into further debt to make the collapse enough to bring in the new system. 

You don't need a plan to get further into debt, it's going to happen regardless of what people try to do. Money is debt. Watch the  video below to find out about  fractional reserve banking. The economic system is inherently flawed.

In a nutshell though lending creates money. Money lent needs to be repaid back with interest so there is never enough money in existence to  pay back all the loans. Debt always increases faster as a result. An upshot of this is that there will always be a percentage of the population that fail.




Yep, but still, while I agree with this, the problem will always be literally input vs output vs return, and even in science you always have more energy going in, bleed off, and less output. And it is the same reason, while I don't mind at all people moving up or having more, I hate that bullshit "you can do it" when left alone by itself. Certainly you can try and some people do reach that top. But for everyone that does, there will still be far more, no matter how good they might be, that wont.

The problem isn't inequity but the GAP. We had bartering long before coins and paper currency. We bartered food and animals and pelts as money prior to money existing. So there really is no getting rid of a barter exchange because we are social animals. 

BUT, we can and should get rid of the stupid idea that those with the power have special rights or more rights than the rest of us. Wealth IS needed to do things, but just like in evolution, it is simply ONE attribute, but not the only attribute in an economy. It still remains there will always be more workers than business owners. So the more stable the worker is the better everyone does, including business.
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