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Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
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General note: It is possible to look up "strawman fallacy" so as to not commit this particular bit of stupidity in the future.
Not that I have my hopes up, of course.  (February 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: General note: It is possible to look up "strawman fallacy" so as to not commit this particular bit of stupidity in the future. But yet you don't comment on Minimalists escalating of the situation. Okay, you can go fuck yourself as well. (February 19, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:(February 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: General note: It is possible to look up "strawman fallacy" so as to not commit this particular bit of stupidity in the future. Nope. because Miminalist didn't attribute a strawman fallacy to me. You did. Now grow up and own your mistakes.  RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 20, 2016 at 3:22 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2016 at 3:26 am by Heat.)
This is my opinion on guns:
To paraphrase and sum up this entire debate from what Jim said: Once Australia got rid of guns, the bad guys had little to no access to guns either. People are so afraid of "What happens if they get guns". Well, someone who wants to buy a gun in australia isn't going to be stopped by you if you have a gun, that's for sure. Do you know how much a gun costs on the BlackMarket after guns were outlawed? $34,000 for a pistol. Now, some 12 year old who can't handle a gun but wants one to do something terrible, not only doesn't have access, or the money, but even then do you think he's just gonna walk up to people selling guns on the blackmarket and say "Why hello there chap, i'd like to purchase me self one of those there guns you got!". Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 20, 2016 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2016 at 9:06 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 20, 2016 at 3:22 am)Heat Wrote: Once Australia got rid of guns, the bad guys had little to no access to guns either. People are so afraid of "What happens if they get guns". Well, someone who wants to buy a gun in australia isn't going to be stopped by you if you have a gun, that's for sure. Do you know how much a gun costs on the BlackMarket after guns were outlawed? $34,000 for a pistol. Now, some 12 year old who can't handle a gun but wants one to do something terrible, not only doesn't have access, or the money, but even then do you think he's just gonna walk up to people selling guns on the blackmarket and say "Why hello there chap, i'd like to purchase me self one of those there guns you got!". Jim Jeffries is a great comedian. I don't think I'd take gun policy advice or debate rhetoric from him though. 34k for a pistol eh, that's about what an assault rifle will cost you over here...and they're not even banned. Wish that situation was reversed, lol. Twelve year old's buying black market guns isn't a problem we have in the states, and it's already a crime -felony or misdemeanor depending, just to improperly -store- a firearm around children or where children can access them. 12 year olds -don't- have the money to buy guns, even here...even if they could, which they can't....no matter what it is they wish to do with them or how well they can handle them.
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Lol, excellent video, makes a lot of really good points.
I hadn't seen the second half of Jim's gun rant, that was awesome.
RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 20, 2016 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2016 at 11:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Good jokes, sure..points...not so much. Not knocking it for what it is, only concerned for what it's not. If the good points of a gun policy debate come from jim jeffries we have a bigger problem than gun policy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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