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Is God infinitely complex?
#41
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(March 4, 2016 at 6:05 pm)The Inquisition Wrote: Anselm basically gives the game away with the statement "the greatest conceivable being". Yes, god comes from your imagination.
The terminology of the Scholastics was highly developed and precise. In the context of Scholasticism, to conceive of something means something different from imagining it.
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#42
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(March 7, 2016 at 9:05 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(March 4, 2016 at 6:05 pm)The Inquisition Wrote: Anselm basically gives the game away with the statement "the greatest conceivable being". Yes, god comes from your imagination.
The terminology of the Scholastics was highly developed and precise. In the context of Scholasticism, to conceive of something means something different from imagining it.

I don't think that really addresses his point, though. Whether the stories of the bible, the Kalam Cosmological argument, or Aquinas' Five Ways, God never emerges from a bunch of fictional mind stuff. He never evinces himself as something real and concrete.
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#43
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
God can be whatever the writer of the character wants it to be. A bit like superman.



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#44
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
You mean Freddie Kruger?
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#45
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
The whole premise of that question implies god is anything. Is god infinitely complex? No, god isn't anything but a myth and a fabricated lie.
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#46
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue
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#47
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(May 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)quip Wrote:
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue

Are you asking specifically about your case, or something more general?
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#48
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(May 24, 2016 at 5:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)quip Wrote: Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue

Are you asking specifically about your case, or something more general?

Unless I woke up this morning espousing solipsism....I included you in the lot. 

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#49
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(May 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)quip Wrote:
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue

Not Nomad or V'ger. They evolved beyond their original complexity. It could be argued that they became more complex than their creators.
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#50
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Not only does it make him finite, it makes him semi-sentient. A mind which featured no complex mechanisms would be nothing more than a raw quale, feeling thoughtlessly in the void.
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