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Is God infinitely complex?

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Is God infinitely complex?
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#51
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 24, 2016 at 11:08 pm
(May 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)quip Wrote:
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue

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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 24, 2016 at 11:10 pm
(May 24, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Gemini Wrote:
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Not only does it make him finite, it makes him semi-sentient. A mind which featured no complex mechanisms would be nothing more than a raw quale, feeling thoughtlessly in the void.

Indeed, if god is omniscient and knows all future events, then that would mean that he has an "actual infinite" in his mind at all times.
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#53
RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 24, 2016 at 11:11 pm
God is quite simple. He is man made.

Complications only arise when man thinks god is real.
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 24, 2016 at 11:44 pm (This post was last modified: May 24, 2016 at 11:50 pm by Whateverist.)
(March 3, 2016 at 8:43 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(March 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Many theologians say that god is "simple", but if god is simple, does not that make god finite?

Divine Simplicity isn't a simple topic. It is the topic of Question 3 of Aquinas's Summa Theologica. His treatment of Question 3 consists of 8 Articles, each of which considers multiple points.

My oh my.  How many beers went undrunk and how many babes went unfucked while you read those musty old articles.  Repent!!!
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 24, 2016 at 11:48 pm
(May 24, 2016 at 11:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)quip Wrote: Aren't creators vastly more complex then their creations.

If god is simple, what's that say about humankind?  Tongue

You were the product of a single sperm and egg; what does that say about you?!

I should have gotten my mom something on mother's day?
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 25, 2016 at 2:07 am
Sure. But not sperm and eggs.
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 25, 2016 at 8:18 am (This post was last modified: May 25, 2016 at 8:20 am by Gemini.)
A "simple mind" is like a "high-entropy quantum particle." Entropy requires multiple particles before it even applies to a state of affairs, and likewise with mind. Claiming that an ontological simple could be a mind is a category error.

It would make for a good hymn, though. "All rise and turn your hymnal to, 'Let's praise our simple-minded god...'"
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 25, 2016 at 3:19 pm (This post was last modified: May 25, 2016 at 3:21 pm by quip.)
(May 25, 2016 at 2:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Sure. But not sperm and eggs.

Odd personal anecdote....duly noted nonetheless.
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 25, 2016 at 3:24 pm
abaris Wrote:Why not ask if Odin's infinetely complex?

Because no one claims Odin is infinitely anything?
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RE: Is God infinitely complex?
May 25, 2016 at 9:37 pm (This post was last modified: May 25, 2016 at 9:38 pm by Jehanne.)
(May 24, 2016 at 11:48 pm)quip Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 11:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You were the product of a single sperm and egg; what does that say about you?!

I should have gotten my mom something on mother's day?

Yes, definitively; maybe a nice chocolate cake with cream frosting?
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