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Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
#11
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
That rhymes well enough to put into a poem.
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#12
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
What the f*ck is a dinosaur?

I think you mean a Jesus horse.
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#13
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
Bacteria have evolved to digest PET (a form of plastic) this did not even exist a few decades ago, think what could evolve after a few hundred million years.
http://www.sciencealert.com/new-plastic-...revolution

How do you explain that without involving evolution (or did a god just magic them into existence?)
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#14
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
I bet no amount of genetic menipulation can tease out any sign of any ability to consider evidence iat any time during the evolutionary history of creationists.
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#15
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
Quote:(or did a god just magic them into existence?)

One can only imagine the stupidity that will come careening out of their mouths.
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#16
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
But, but, but


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RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
(March 16, 2016 at 11:45 pm)dyresand Wrote: http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-h...first-time 

Dinosaur legs on a chicken maybe they will finally shut up and quit saying 
god created shit.

I am curious how much they had to engineer, to accomplish this?   Also, why did none of the chickens survive to hatch?

I don't see where this is a problem....
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#18
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
Quote:I am curious how much they had to engineer, to accomplish this?

They inhibited the expression of one gene. One.

Quote:Also, why did none of the chickens survive to hatch?

Probably because their genes had been mucked about. But gene manipulation leading to non-viability doesn't affect the point of the experiment: dinosaurs and modern birds are amazingly similar on the genetic level.

Quote:I don't see where this is a problem....

It is a serious problem for a 'special creation' scenario for the origin of life. If each species were created specially and independently, we wouldn't expect genetic similarity. On the other hand, if life evolved from a common ancestor, we would expect nothing but genetic similarity. The fact that this similarity between extant species (birds) and species extinct for some 70 million years (dinos) is tremendously supporting of descent - with modification - from a common ancestor.

Boru
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RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
(March 25, 2016 at 7:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
RR Wrote:I am curious how much they had to engineer, to accomplish this?

They inhibited the expression of one gene.  One.

RR Wrote:Also, why did none of the chickens survive to hatch?

Probably because their genes had been mucked about.  But gene manipulation leading to non-viability doesn't affect the point of the experiment:  dinosaurs and modern birds are amazingly similar on the genetic level.

So apparently it takes more than one change?
How many genetic tests have they done on dinosaurs?   All I gathered, are they are stating that there are structural similarities, and this was believed before the test.

RR Wrote:I don't see where this is a problem....
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Quote:It is a serious problem for a 'special creation' scenario for the origin of life.  If each species were created specially and independently, we wouldn't expect genetic similarity.  On the other hand, if life evolved from a common ancestor, we would expect nothing but genetic similarity.  The fact that this similarity between extant species (birds) and species extinct for some 70 million years (dinos) is tremendously supporting of descent - with modification - from a common ancestor.

Boru

I think that you are making some unnecessary assumptions here (at least speaking for my self).  And I have never heard any predictions or claims, that state; that animals will be completely genetically distinct.  I agree, that the information in the chemical genetic code, produces the blueprint for animal development, and that similar features, may very well have a similar coding.  The question seems to be how these changes occur, and what is sufficient cause for some of the differences we see.  I don't see where much was proven here.
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#20
RE: Maybe this will shut creationists up finally
Nothing will shut them up. They'll just close their eyes, stick their fingers in their eyes, and say "Lalalalala" It goes against a literal interpretation of a 2000 year old book written by people who had no idea about the earth and made an unsubstantiated claim that God inspired them with absolutely no proof that he did.
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