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Oh the Irony.............
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RE: Oh the Irony.............
(April 8, 2016 at 10:39 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(April 8, 2016 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: Really?!?!?

Show me a "Fang" of CHRISTIANITY by providing Book Chapter and Verse.

Keep in mind the Holy Bible repersents 2 Religions and not just Christianity. Meaning I'm asking for BCV for a 'Christian Fang, and not a Jewish one.'

I don't know what BCV christians have used to commit atrocities like the inquisitions, the Salem witch trials, and so forth and so on. I just know that historically christians have been plenty violent, and would continue to be today without secular values holding them back.
They don't have the BCV that's the thing... They are using ignorance of the scripture, and self righteousness (pop morality) of their fellow man to inject evil into Christianity.

Thing is, these 'evils' that the church leadership at that time embraced, cost them their integrity with the Biblically defined church and with God. Because they had to break direct commands (which we do have BCV) in order to make their 'new doctrines.'

For example with witches we have been given a direct example of Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8

Simon was a known sorcerer, had a large following himself, and philip did not attack him or try to hurt him in any way. He simply shared the gospel. When he did a large number of simon's people converted even simon himself. At one point he tried to buy the gift of the holy Spirit and for that he was rebuke. he repented and went on to be a pillar of the church. That's it. Anything done to  witches and sorcerers outside that example breaks the command/example of how we as a church is supposed to interact with that type of person. That said, those acts while maybe apart of 'church' history is not apart of Christianity in any way shape or form.

If you wish I can go down each every every instance you want to bring up, but know bottom line in order for an evil man to use Christianity in such away their must be ignorance of scripture, an over abundance of Self Righteousness/pop morality involved and an evil blood lust in the hearts of men.

None of these things have anything to do with Christianity. This is Evil man using religion for his own gain.

How does that differ from islam?

Well again in Islam you have direct commands to "kill all infidels" to lie to them, to do whatever it takes to over come and replace them.

With Christianity one had to break the Christian 'law' to hurt people, with Islam hurting people who do not worship Allah is commanded.

So them how can you say these are the same?
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(April 8, 2016 at 10:48 am)vorlon13 Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

 . . . 78,000 (and counting) self inflicted schisms has neutered the cause like no secular atheist movement ever could.

Too bad the Islamic hordes are so vigilant about decapitating their schismatics, it's holding them back from becoming palatable.

citation please on the 78,000
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(April 8, 2016 at 11:02 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 8:53 am)Brian37 Wrote: But lets forget about the history of Christianity, and it's justifications for slavery, genocide of Native Americans, sexism against women and condemnation of gays. No, see when they are dicks they are doing it for the correct god.

It's OK when Christians do it.  Because their God, which is the one true god, commands it.  Or something.

...and what I've asked for is BCV where God has 'commanded it.'
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(April 8, 2016 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

Really?!?!?

Show me a "Fang" of CHRISTIANITY by providing Book Chapter and Verse.

Keep in mind the Holy Bible repersents 2 Religions and not just Christianity. Meaning I'm asking for BCV for a 'Christian Fang, and not a Jewish one.'

Hey, asshole.  You clowns are the ones who combined those two pieces of shit.  Now you are stuck with it.
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http://aattp.org/here-are-8-christian-te...qual-isis/

8 Christian terrorist organizations that equal ISIS. And most of the fundies would be killing gays and muslims and atheists if they thought they could get away with it.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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Still kind of hard to tell the difference between people associating with christuianity at their worst, and people associating with islam at their worst.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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(April 6, 2016 at 9:09 am)Brian37 Wrote: This is what I don't like about ALL religions, no matter the label worldwide. Most humans get stuck on an umbrella idea, a label, and never want to pay attention to the fact that every religion has sub sects that compete as to how the label/writings should be followed. 

Humans are mostly religious due to where they were born, and combine that with a lack of understanding that the reality is we are social and thus form groups to survive. Problem is that those ideas can be false just like the Ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years centering their lives around non existent deities. 

No you cannot force any religion out of existence, but humans really need too start facing this reality in order to manage differences in a more civil manor.

If our right wing had it's way and had a majority power, and there was no constitution stopping them, we would look like far too much of the Middle East. No, most Muslims are not terrorists, but they do have a big enough minority that is causing them problems. Our Christian right minority isn't to that level and only secular law has prevented them so far from getting that far. But they do still cause problems.

One major supporter of religion that needs to be dealt with before humans in general can face the truth is government. Governments throughout history have found religion to be the easiest way to control the masses. Until the governments of the Earth find a better way, they will continue to support religion. The alternative, of course, cannot be the kind of draconian atheism we had in the Soviet Union, which only led to a 360 degree backlash when the union broke up. But the contemporary atheistic philosophy that rests on empathy would be great for the people. As long as governments think it’s their roll to control people they won’t go for empathy.

I like what they’ve achieved in the UK where even though the ruling class is still wallowing in religious hogwash, the general public has reached a point where religion is irrelevant.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

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